Why?? Well, for the friends lost there. For those not returned. For holding info on the missing. For 'salting' crash sites with property & remains. For not returning the remains in their posession... For the parents, wives, & children of the MIAs and POWs held after the war. For the torture and killing of their own........... the list can go on. If you need to ask you should spend a few hours here and watch this or just read the link at the end for info <<"Tune In - To the History Channel on Tuesday December 10, 2002 at 8:00 PM (check your local listings for the channel in your area.) A one hour segment on POW/MIA Capt. John T. McDonnell, lost March 6, 1969, will air at that time. Regular readers of Bits know that Capt. McDonnell was last seen alive in mid-to-late February of 1973, and he was not alone. To refresh you memory of the McDonnell case visit nationalalliance.org;
Maybe this will give you a little idea also; Fake or Real, this article got us to thinking about dog tags found at battle and crash sites. We know the Vietnamese have salted remains and other artifacts at loss sites. Anyone who doubts that should visit nationalalliance.org
Would it be so hard for the Vietnamese to fake a dog tag and plant it at a site? They have the necessary information, required to fake a dog tag. The U.S. has provided the Vietnamese with all records pertaining to our POW/MIAs and their loss incident.
Specifically, this article brought to mind the dog tag found at the crash site of the Baron 52, downed February 5, 1973. That tag bore the name of Sgt. Joseph A. Matejov. The tag was not discovered during the excavation and recovery operation. It was found during the site survey, several months earlier, laying in plain view. Someone looked down and there it was.
Mary Matejov, Joe's mother, wonders about the tag. She once stated that Joe told her he flew "sanitized," meaning the crew carried no identification media. However, that has never been confirmed. She also wonders about the condition of the tag. It seemed to be in far better condition than a tag that supposedly laid on the jungle floor for over 20 years.
Intelligence reports indicated that four "air pirates" were captured short after Baron 52 when down. The Baron 52 was the only plane downed in all of Southeast Asia on February 5th of 1973. Yet, for years DPMO personnel insisted the intelligence reports related to a South Vietnamese air crew.
Also ignored were the statements of those in the best position to know who got out of that aircraft and who didn't. Those statements came from members of the search and rescue team who examined the site and wreckage on February 9th of 1973, five days after the incident.
In August 1989, members of that team shared their recollections as part of the an Air Force Oral History Program. The full text of that interview may be found at nationalalliance.org
During that interview the following exchange took place between Chief M/Sgt. Ronald Schofield, a member of the SAR team and Mr. Willard Ellison. Unfortunately, a small portion of the exchange was redacted.
Schofield: We found the aircraft was on its back. We knew it had a full fuel load which accounts for the intensity of fire. All I was there for was to make sure there was no classified still available. When we got there, one of the PJs set up a parameter, and the other one and myself were looking for bodies. We only found three bodies and that was the pilot, the copilot and the third pilot. The backend, even the equipment was burned, and the Colonel (Blau) and I have talked about it. These aircraft flew with the doors on. If that aircraft had crashed with the door on, there would have been a little bit of it left at the top. There was absolutely nothing. It was gone. It looked like it had been kicked off.
Ellerson: Kicked off; You mean ejected? The door had been ejected?
Schofield: Pulled the handle and got rid of it and people bailed out. Because there was about 12 to 14 inches of the aircraft left and where the door was, the top of the door was open. The top of it was not there. But everything else had burned. And also the frontend -- nomex flight suits are good, I learned that -- you could recognize the pilot, copilot and third pilot, and there should have been some remains of the backenders in the fire, but there wasn't anything.
Ellerson: Wasn't the aircraft totally flattened.
Schofield: No sir, it was upside down. But, we found the pilot and copilot right where they should have been, and the third pilot in front of the firewall. There was an area in there where the radios were on one side, and the distribution panel on the other side, and there was a little table in there.
Ellerson: Now, wasn't the backend flat down to the ground when you walked in there?
Schofield: The whole bottom was burned off. The aircraft was inverted and the whole bottom was off. The three bodies were right where they should have been. There should have 'been some remains in the backend, but there was absolutely nothing.
Ellerson: It was upside down. Wasn't the floor on top of those things?
Schofield: It was gone.
Ellerson: It was gone. So it was all burned out.
Schofield: The top of the aircraft was all there was left.
Ellerson: The bottom of the aircraft, which was upside down, was all gone and everything was burned down. There's no possibility in your mind that they could have been cremated?
Schofield: I thought so originally. I've had this on my mind for a long time because, whatever I said, had a direct impact on the decisions made. No, I've given it a lot of thought and I've talked to the Colonel (Blau) about that, and the absence of the top of the door,: the intel report about the four fliers, shock, which indicates that they'd been suffering from burns, which they probably would have. We had another interesting phenomenon. DATA I brought this up and they said, "No, that's happened before."; But I had five years in Southeast Asia, 4 1/2 on flying status, and never have I seen them just DATA They were very cautious because they could screw up pretty bad. And they were very amateurish out there. They had very little training and whenever they DATA DATA DATA And I felt in my own mind that they had, in fact, been captured and had been interrogated."
The list is long------------ maybe you had to be there to understand,,, but old dogs have a long memory.. |