Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Strategies & Market Trends : Galapagos Islands -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: mishedlo who wrote (18873)	12/29/2002 2:40:06 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57110

I have a 35mm canon with some lenses I used in africa 4 years ago for wildlife photography... I haven't moved to digital camera yet and of course I need lenses and don't know how that works. Do you have a preference for digital camera? I really have to read up on this stuff but since I'm not planning any trips right now I haven't bothered, the technology is such a moving target anyway. Lizzie

To: mishedlo who wrote (18873)	12/29/2002 10:49:00 PM
From: Lost1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57110

dood..sounds like the life of an artist, regardless of the medium

To: mishedlo who wrote (18873)	12/30/2002 2:21:40 AM
From: GraceZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57110

Just my two cents. -g- You should consider trying to show your stuff to a stock house. It's free money for stuff you've already shot, just make sure you only sell usage not all the rights. I have clients who make $2000/month on stock with little or no additional effort. Here's a guy I've worked with and have known for years who started out doing editorial. He shoots a lot of assignments and he sells a lot of stock: chesapeakephotos.com There is also enormous $ in the ad business but the accounts are next to impossible to get. I work with a lot of guys and gals that do ads and marketing pieces, have for over 25 years. The cheapest guy I work with might bill $800/day plus expenses, this is considered rock bottom. (that is when they aren't shooting low paying editorial work) It's not difficult to break in at that level especially if you have lighting equipment and know how to use it. The most expensive guy charges $3000-15,000 per day depending on usage. When you get to that level you have to spend almost as much money marketing yourself as you might make. I've known several who went bankrupt trying to compete at the highest level. The guys who do the best are in the $1200-2000 range and they tend to shoot anywhere from 5 days a month to 20. They also mark up expenses. Most net around 80k to 180k. The best way to break in is to work as an assistant with someone who does that level of work and when you have enough experience in how to run jobs, then find yourself an agent if you aren't good at selling. I've had equal numbers of clients who have worked with agents as worked without them. A good agent will get you higher paying jobs, a bad one will waste your time and money and piss off your clients. I've seen numerous examples of both. Best to find one who already carries other people whose work you like (which is not exactly like yours)and is successful. I can't tell you how many people who have worked as my darkroom assistants are now out there making a good living as photographers. A lot that I fired! -ggg- Even the fired ones come back to me as customers. I live in a town that no one would think has a thriving photography profession, but there are a lot of design firms and ad agencies. I've worked with both for years, I prefer designers over ad guys any day. They tend to work on published pieces, marketing booklets and now web stuff. The ad work tends to boom and bust with the ad cycle, but the marketing stuff is always around. One of my guys did cigarette ads. I refused the work. I did scan his cigarette stuff years later and remove cigarettes for his portfolio using Photoshop. Seems it's not considered good form to show cigarette ads to some designers, so we took them out. Here are two of my oldest clients, he does all digital now, no film at all and she does B&W mostly of people and sells a lot of stock: rnaphoto.com susiefitzhugh.com