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To: JohnM who wrote (71357)2/4/2003 2:56:30 PM
From: slacker711  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The only basis, given the current conditions, under which any prospects for negotiations can start again is if the Bush folk push both sides to do so.

Well I agree that the Bush administration should be trying to do more with the situation....but I think the positive results for the US will be more in the form of PR than any actual deal.

I find it extremely hard to see Bush being more successful under the current circumstances than Clinton in '00.

Slacker



To: JohnM who wrote (71357)2/4/2003 2:56:57 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"And right now Arafat is clearly not the only one in the way of such negotiations. Most likely he is less likely a problem than Sharon."

John,
At this point in time you are probably right. I think Sharon will use the iraq war as a pretext for the further cleanup of terrorists/radicals particularly in gaza as it will be off the front pages. After the Iraq war is over there will be clear victors and vanquished. From this vantage point may come some bold moves for peace from Sharon. The CW is that Bush will be forcing him. My view is that Sharon knows Israel cant survive with dreams of greater israel or as an occupier forever and maintain its political freedoms.
The important question though is whether the clearly defeated Palestinians can produce leadership with the mandate to accept something fair that leads back to "land for peace" with ultimate control over most pre-1967 West Bank and gaza. Actually the saudi proposal plus symbolic right of return plus diplomatic recognition of Israel by arab states. mike



To: JohnM who wrote (71357)2/4/2003 8:55:04 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Most likely he is less likely a problem than Sharon.


Yeah, he is "less likely," because he is no longer part of the problem. Neither we nor the Israelis will do business with him.