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To: JohnM who wrote (76721)2/23/2003 11:30:06 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
This all needs to cool off

Yes it does, But it won't for a while. The people waving signs at demonstrations are from the left, not from the right. They are being lead and funded by some very nasty people. Ignoring those facts are not going to make them go away. The cry of "McCarthyism" is not going to work.

I think what hit me the hardest is the light bulb that went off in my head when I realized that this explained the constant refrain from Win about "Wolfowitz." And it finally made sense of his "Perle and company" remarks that he has been making for a year. I could never figure out his fixation on someone who was not even in the Government. Now I understand.



To: JohnM who wrote (76721)2/23/2003 11:37:22 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
There is a line in here somewhere that everyone is in danger of crossing. Brooks' article gets very close to the line. An argument can be made that it hasn't crossed it; another that it has. The line is to find yet another reason to bash critics of the Bush administration by arguing not that they are unpatriotic or communist or whatever, but that they are anti-semitic.

Sometimes I get the impression from your remarks that you think that calling someone anti-semitic is a worse offense than being anti-semitic.

A simple list of facts:

ANSWER is Stalinist anti-Zionist, and anti-semitic
ANSWER is one of the chief organizers of the anti-war marches - not a "fringe" (Where they are getting the money for this would be very interesting to discover, but that's another story)
ANSWER has been allowed to blackball noted Jewish liberals from speaking as "pro-Israel"
ANSWER has also been allowed to put up mullahs as speakers who lead the crowd in chants of "Allahu akhbar" and "jihad".

The other organizing groups know this and don't mind. ANSWER is still organizing the next marches.

Now, an impartial observer would have to say at the most charitable interpretation, this amounts to a big "Don't Care" vote about anti-semitism from the other anti-war groups.



To: JohnM who wrote (76721)2/23/2003 12:05:09 PM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 

There is anti-semitism in American life.It has usually been on the further right; apparently, now there is some on the left. We should all be ashamed of it; it comes from our collectivity. But that should not be used to stop criticism of the Bush administration. Or any administration, for that matter.


I think you are more worried about people criticizing the left then anti-semitism. On FADG, I have little tolerance for bashing the protestors (making fun of their ideas is fine though) and I have no tolerance of anti-semitism. There has been a fair amount of both and you only notice one of them.

Paul