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To: i-node who wrote (162466)	2/28/2003 3:36:50 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576946

Quit believing the trash that criticizing Bush's war = siding with Saddam or being un-American. Bush does not = America. Bush is a neo-conservative hawk without a mandate for going it alone. There's not a single American leader of any stripe who in any way sides with Saddam. Saddam is a creep. Even peace marchers know this. Even the farthest left-winger knows this. He's also a convenient boogey man with a lot of oil (that Bush's cronies want), and an easy guy to beat up to distract the public from domestic failures, a terrible economy and make us forget about Osama Bin Lauden, Kenny Lay, North Korea and the other real villains who remain free. Saddam has been a very bad person, but yet he hasn't threatened us in over ten years. We should have taken him out then but didn't. Bush Sr. dropped the ball. And back in those days Saddam actually thought we were his friends. After all we helped arm him during the Reagan years, didn't we? He helped us against Iran. Rumsfield was one of the point-men too. So let's have a fair and balanced view here. War should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. But if we go let's go with all our friends, including the French, Russians and Germans. We also cannot financially afford to fight this war alone. And now we have former post 9-11 aliies like France, Germany and Russia siding against us and pissing everyone off on both sides. Is all this worth it? And what about paying Turkey 26 billion or more? Outrageous. It's not about Saddam, it's about Bush and the way he's going about this. Frankly, it stinks. And I'm embarassed for my contry when a good man like Powell has to show the world phony evidence, like that term paper he plagarized during his UN show. Just amateurish and embarrassing. And Cheney repeating the debunked story about Mohammed Atta and Iraqi intelligence in Prague. Just lies. Reminds me a lot of the lies told to us during the first stage of the Vietnam War, though I know this is a difference case. But post-war we may not be able to pacify this region. It may turn into a huge, costly mess bringing more terrorism not less. And does Saddam really have all those heinous weapons? Probably, but no one has proven it yet. That's embarrassing too.

To: i-node who wrote (162466)	2/28/2003 4:02:50 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576946

This, to me, is tantamount to treason. To put political interests before the interests of the nation IS the act of a traitor in my opinion. Give it a rest there Mr Ed. I am no more a traitor than you are intelligent and measured. So there...we are both wrong. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? It's not bush I detest, but the USA he envisions. Divided, at war, meddlesome, fearful, serving special interests, stuck and unable to progress to any loftier ideals of human dignity and equality. He just happens to be the messenger. He could be a democrat and I would still detest his policies. He could be a phucking liberal and it would make no difference whatsoever as long as he is the pedestrian, unintelligent politician the supreme court made into a president. He represents this country in the worst possible light...chuckling, shoulder wiggling, shitty grinning as he declares his war chant for the politically motivated world molding intentions manipulated into his otherwise empty head by a collection of right wing radicals... after a campaign of no nation building lies (you said liberals were all liars, remember) and the US can't be a bully bull$hit. You substitute intelligence and thought with shock jock accusations of treason. It's clear you are at a loss for substance. It's comedic. Al

To: i-node who wrote (162466)	2/28/2003 4:59:52 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576946

This, to me, is tantamount to treason. Excuse me......below is one of the definitions of treason according to Webster's online. Its the definition used by a court of law to try someone for treason. By definition, no one on this thread has committed treason against the US. But you have committed slander. Its one thing to call someone stupid or an idiot........we all presume you don't know any better and its what you do when you don't have a strong argument to fall back on but its quite another thing for you or Harris to accuse someone of breaking the law because they disagree with you. Not only are you a very weak American and hardly a patriot but you are out of order. ted treason: the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family