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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14630)	3/2/2003 1:29:43 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Amen. It appears that freedom of religion is OK with them only when it applies to them. I'm sure Saddam would have no problem with that philosophy.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14630)	3/2/2003 1:30:03 PM
From: Just_Observing	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

I think its fair to question his policies, motives, etc. but I think its wrong to mock him about his religious beliefs in a country that was founded on freedom of religion. If his motives are derived from religion, then isn't it fair to examine his religious beliefs? After all, Dubya has more power than any human in history. And on the verge of a war which may cause 500,000 casualties in just a few days, it would be irresponsible not to examine motives. You are entitled to your opinion that Fineman is mocking Bush's religious beliefs, though, of course, as you pointed out earlier, masses are usually wrong.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14630)	3/2/2003 1:35:07 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

Agustus, I don't agree with you. Given the way Muslim thought interceeds in political thought in pan-Arabia, religion is, whether we like it or not, an issue. When Bush early on used the term "crusade" against terrorism, this was widely misunderstood by Muslims worldwide. They were alarmed by this comment. So if our president, due to his own theology, is apt to mix 'his' version of God with 'their' version of God, well, then it becomes an issue. It seems the vast majority of 'bible-thumpers' of America, Bush's Christian coalition base, are ferverently advocating this war and are firmly behind Bush. When you examine the base of opinion that's supporting Bush's want for war, this demographic group is significant, and contrary even to the wider views of Americans. The fact is support for this war in America, outside of the Christian coalition, exists only with UN support.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14630)	3/2/2003 1:51:02 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

If his religious beliefs, which others in the country do not share, cause the man to make a decision as our secular leader, then HOUSTON we HAVE a problem. He was not elected (no he was selected) to be our spiritual leader; he was selected to govern the country as a secular ruler, and to do so logically. When he is led by his religious beliefs to make decisions for the secular state that affect us ALL, mocking is certainly in order. After all, we may have freedom of religion, but we also have freedom of speech.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14630)	3/2/2003 1:56:32 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

You have to know you are going to get a lot of reaction to this. It is the Bush's of the world, and his party, that brought religion relentlessly into the fabric of public debate, most outside the core republican group would prefer religion to be excluded from politics completely. However, once you open that box, as Bush and republicans have done- you leave yourself open to criticism of said religion and your interpretation thereof. I once read a survey that the most hated personality trait among adults is hypocrisy. Thats the problem with presenting yourself as someone who is only able to take the "moral high ground" because God is on your side.