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To: paul_philp who wrote (81655)3/13/2003 12:22:57 AM
From: Rollcast...  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Great read, thx Paul.

However, if France believes they have become a new pole after this, they are sadly mistaken.



To: paul_philp who wrote (81655)3/13/2003 10:20:51 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
After the Bush speech, France knew two things. First, Bush was going to take care of the problem of Iraq. France didn't have to worry that it's UNSC vote would have a material impact on that situation. Second, in the emerging world order, France was not a tier-1 player in the American orbit but Britain is tier-1.

Yes, I think so too, Paul. Chirac is pursuing short-term political popularity and la gloire, i.e. preferring to be a big fish in the anti-American pond rather than a little fish in the Atlantic alliance. I just heard a BBC announcer say that Chirac actually blushed when an interviewer compared him to de Gaulle. Personally, I think he's footing a bill too long for his purse with the US and most of Europe.

The UN is dead, kaput, finito. It was one of the most important things I thought needed to happen post 9-11 and I didn't even recognize it when it happened.

I really don't know about that. So many people believe in the UN that they contrive to keep it alive, even as a fiction. Sort of like the Holy Roman Empire.