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To: epicure who wrote (5641)	3/13/2003 3:57:57 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

I was talking about Jim Moran. Anyway, a reasoned argument is not objectionable. I was talking about inflammatory comments.( Need I add, that I disagree with?) I was merely contrasting the risks of being inflammatory, when it is Israel, which is in danger of a mass bloodletting, as compared to France and Germany.

To: epicure who wrote (5641)	3/13/2003 4:10:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7720

What if being for the support of Israel puts the US at risk? In fact, it probably does. Our strong support, both politically and economically, certainly increases the risk to US citizens of terrorism by Arab radicals. That's not to say we should change our policies. Sometimes doing the right thing is risker than doing the wrong thing. But we need to face the reality of the consequnces of those policies.

To: epicure who wrote (5641)	3/14/2003 8:35:21 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7720

What if being for the support of Israel puts the US at risk? I don't think the survival of Israel is really our priority in this country. X, I do not see how the US could in good conscience not support Israel. First of all, we were party to the creation of the country, for better or worse; we've always supported it; so we have a responsibility to continue to support it. Secondly, there are lots of Americans, probably a majority of Americans, who have a special interest in the place. And thirdly, it's a democracy in a part of the world where that's an alien concept. That is not to say that we have to rubber-stamp Israel's policies. Or pay for them. I think it's a fine idea, for example, to make our aid payments inversely proportional to their nurturing of settlements. We don't need to support Israeli policies that increase our risk. But the bottom line is, IMO, that we have to defend the existence of the country, despite the risk.