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To: Condor who wrote (84110)	3/20/2003 9:16:35 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Condor, Finally we agree on something and i would add that canada and france will make the same effort for reconciliation with the US. But reconciliation does not mean trust of either Chirac, Chretien and Schroeder and i am sure the aforementioned will be happier with a new administration here. IF the war goes as the hawks expect, in your opinion will there be major political ramifications for Chretien? Mike

To: Condor who wrote (84110)	3/20/2003 9:24:01 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

I have faith that the emotions of the moment will dissipate in the months to come and all the reasons that the US for years entertained a balanced foreign policy and diplomatic sensitivity will become clear to this administration. Condor, you're still reading this like the French - that this is just people being emotional, it'll blow over. Caldwell's point (do read him carefully) is that America is going to take measures against France, not out of pique, but out of hard headed political calculations - that whatever calculus enabled the French to believe they could set themselves up to thwart and obstruct actions that we believed were essential for our national security without paying any price - well, that calculus has got to go. The surest way to overturn it is to make some example of the French pour encourager les autres. This is doubly true as it is a neocon article of faith that it is wise in foreign policy to reward your allies and punish your enemies as it encourages more allies in the long run. The neocons believe that the US has spent twenty years bullying our allies and appeasing our enemies, and that we are now paying the price of that mistaken policy. I would bet that the US will publicize France's selling of nuclear programs to the Iraqis, and will cut TotalFinaElf out of Iraqi oil development completely. TWT.

To: Condor who wrote (84110)	3/20/2003 9:41:18 AM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I have faith that the emotions of the moment will dissipate in the months to come and all the reasons that the US for years entertained a balanced foreign policy and diplomatic sensitivity will become clear to this administration. Condor, The public diplomacy will heal. There will be some slap-on-wrist payback for show. It is Canadian MPs acting like Rumsfeld these days. The rift between Canada and the US will not be long lasting but rift between the US and France has deep roots, the structure of the relationship has changed, it will take some time for a new relationship to fully grow. France actively worked against the US in a matter the US considered a national security matter. It is much more than simply emotional. Paul