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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (85372)	3/23/2003 10:01:39 PM
From: paul_philp	Respond to of 281500

I don't even know how wrong predictions of organized resistance collapsing are. The problems happened today mostly at the backend. The US didn't leave enough protection for the maintanence and logistical support troops. War is not easy but I don't think today is an indication of quagmire. Remember, the press did this in Afghanistan too -- oh no, Kabul hasn't fallen and it's been two whole weeks already, it's a quagmire! Wars don't run on Internet time, no matter how much air time the cable channels need to fill. Also remember that this is Saddam's strategy. He knows he cannot win on the battlefield so he will try to win by turning the American people against each other. Paul

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (85372)	3/23/2003 10:11:56 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Did you know that from the town of Qasr-e Shirin in Iran to Baghdad is only 95 miles and that Iranians know their way around there very well? And that is the least Bush could have gotten if he'd been nicer to Khatami after Afghanistan...oh well...and by the way, Turkey's prime minister had to explain his pro-US behavior to his people to calm them down, if he had to do that for granting air rights, imagine what it would be like if there were US troops mounting attack from there...which brings me to say that once again a bit of diplomacy could have saved us a lot of time and effort in the war. But then again if Bush believed if Bush believed in diplomacy...

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (85372)	3/23/2003 10:18:05 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I certainly never predicted that the coalition would be met with flowers, although that would be nice, of course. When push comes to shove, I honestly don't give a screw if the Iraqis establish democracy and peace and light and all of that happy crap. As many are so fond of saying, it's their country. Maybe Iraqis are genetically resistant to democracy, as some argue. I am not Iraqi, so I don't know. Just get rid of Saddam, his regime, the WMD and the means of delivery, and we'll talk about the future afterwards. I hope, sincerely hope, that the Iraqi people will establish a genuine democracy. But I realize that we can't shove it down their throats. It really is up to them. We can give them support, but we can't make their country for them. They have to do it.