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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 2:04:18 AM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"What about Guantanamo Bay?" Does that refer to the prisoners whom the coroner pronounced homicide victims?



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 2:13:21 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
> What about Guantanamo Bay?

I thought it was universally agreed upon that if a country is too poor to buy neat looking uniforms for everyone then it must suffer under the title of "unlawful combatants", have its people treated as American POWs were treated by VCs so that they are driven to suicide.



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 3:55:39 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Five PoWs are mistreated in Iraq and the US cries foul. What about Guantanamo Bay?

This is really outrageous, Jacob. You are comparing apples to oranges. It is obvious that some of these prisoners have been executed, and none of the Gitmo prisoners have been put on TV and forced to make statements. Shame on you. Goodbye and Good Luck.



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 7:34:37 AM
From: aladin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Jacob,

The difference between POW status and the treatment for our Guantanamo prisoners is what?

We can interrogate them

Between civilian criminals and Guantanamo?

No lawyer
No right to trial

Otherwise - the red cross supervises and all other aspects are kept.

Creating moral equivalency between being denied lawyers and getting executed is sick.

John



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 8:27:54 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Disgraceful Jacob. You should be ashamed.



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 9:02:22 AM
From: JustTradeEm  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Still won't give up beating this now 3 week old dead horse, eh, Jacob ?

So, I'll pose my question to you also ...

Do you support the execution of American POWs ?

JB



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 11:13:57 AM
From: Neeka  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
Your comparison is disgusting. It wasn't just execution. Did you see the pictures?

Top of head BLOWN off......completely blown off....opened up like a melon dropped from 100 feet. Pants pulled down groin mutilated, bloody mass. Holes in heads where bullets when through. Bodies strewn on concrete floor.....blood everywhere. Enemy, who may have pulled trigger laughing, smiling in jubilation. Shown to billions world wide via television.

Here, educate yourself.

mullings.com
guardian.co.uk
rte.ie
news.bbc.co.uk

And I don't give a fig what you say.......you hate America.

M



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (85910)3/25/2003 11:19:04 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
From the White House Briefing on humanitarian aid to Iraq I linked to Sun Tzu, I wanted to make sure that Jacob saw this bit: >>Q I remember a campaign pledge about nation-building. Isn't that what this is? Maybe the Defense Department representatives can talk about that? Isn't this nation-building?

DR. COLLINS: I've always been of the opinion that the indigenous people build their own nations. I'm not sure what the right phrase for what we are engaged in is. We speak about -- in two different phases, humanitarian relief and reconstruction. And I would prefer to leave it at that.

MR. ABRAMS: I think that's right. The responsibility for turning Iraq into a stable, peaceful democracy falls to the people of Iraq. The most we can do is get -- if this conflict occurs, is get this monstrous regime that is preventing them from doing that out of the way.<<
whitehouse.gov

Elliott Abrams, by the way, is one of the notorious "cabal" of Jewish Neocons that are reputed to want to "run the world," so the paranoids will discount this as disinformation.