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To: yard_man who wrote (233480)	4/4/2003 12:45:22 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

that's the exact same argument used by seccionists in 1860 and the scope of that discussion is way to big for a board like this.

To: yard_man who wrote (233480)	4/4/2003 12:51:47 PM
From: benwood	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

Germany withdrew from the League Of Nations for similar reasons in 1933. It's easy to afford an attitude that completely discounts what the world thinks or believes when you can simply squash them (and pay for it on a credit card). And the massive contracts to friends back in the states certainly won't hurt reelection chances, either.

To: yard_man who wrote (233480)	4/4/2003 12:53:09 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

you want a president that gives up US sovreignty to the UN Sovereignty has to do with the right of a state to do as it pleases WITHIN ITS BORDERS. US should consult with the UN and have its approval before aggressing another sovereign country (i.e. Iraq) because it has signed the UN Charter which says war is OK only in cases of self-defense (i.e. nope, not an imagined, projected, future threat like Iraq) and for the interest of world peace. especially not let the US be bound by it [UN] <ng> -- Ah I see. Nobody should restrain the US from bombing the hell out of whatever country it wants? these world organizations are carp -- they are not honest or legitimate, IMO Honesty is debatable, but for legitimacy, you might like to remember that the US did indeed sign the UN treaty and was fine with it until this once when the UN did not agree with it. That makes it very legitimate.