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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (20986)	4/26/2003 3:30:36 PM
From: Ron	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

I happened to watch a couple of stock market shows on Fox News this morning, because one of my favorite chart guys, Gary Smith was on. But I thought I was going to puke after the first 2 minutes. Both shows featured flag-waving bimbos and gratuitous hyper-patriotic terms and phrases at every turn. As a long time media person, I think I have figured out why Fox is doing so well in the ratings: They have successfully dumbed it down so hardly any viewers feel insecure. Any moron, dumb as a post, can watch Fox and feel intellectually superior. Unfortunately we do know that TV news is primarily for those folks who do not read well. Fox is simply going "over the top" with this concept, and it's working for them ratings-wise. There is no way they could be considered a credible news medium, by anyone with any education at all.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (20986)	4/26/2003 7:33:46 PM
From: Seaworthy Lyric	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Re: BBC's ANTI-WAR Coverage: It does look like BBC has crossed the thin line and joined the likes of MSNBC and CNN. I hate to see this since in the 70's and 80's I used to listen to them quite a bit. It seemed to me, that in those days they managed to remain relatively neutral. I guess that today there is as much 'public' concern in 'public broadcasting' and there is in 'public servants'. For the most part, I still hold a certain amount of respect for NPR. They came under a tremendous amount of pressure to become the "Propaganda Broadcasting Service" after the Thomas hearings, but somehow managed not to totally cave in. I only listen to them sporadically, yet note an effort to present both sides of the story. This I cannot say of any other major player. [Side note: it seems present road to the pulpit of Moral High Ground, leads through a prolonged stay in the sewers of manipulation and corruption.]

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (20986)	4/27/2003 1:42:56 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

<<Barry Diller was on PBS's Bill Moyer's NOW >> What I liked about that was the syntax of a make-it-happen guy like Diller. He said simply the new oligopoly has "too few voices", what a great phrase. Then said the web is as yet mostly two-dimensional, hoping the controlling ownership of the satellite/cable pipes won't cause the web to be absorbed like the broadcast media. Obviously to Diller, that's what they have in mind, complete control over 90% of the media. And now upcoming Bush PRIMARY campaign, which would be unecessary since Junior's the only candidate -- will be $200 MILLION, enough to suck the air out of all other media buys, and make this handful of propaganda-machinery owners another few bucks. A taste of the ONE BILLION + they'll pocket in the general election of '04. A sweet deal. Pass the lobbyist/criminal dollars along to the broadcast/criminals to get yourself in charge of all payoffs and murders, a Twilight Zone episode of the Sopranos. Musselini was one of the most famous editors and journalists of pre-war Italy before he consolidated his power and co-opted the largest businesses to establish the fascisti. Hitler admired his use and control of the media, and copied that and extended it. Alan Dulles came back from his OSS post in Germany most excited by the way Hitler was able to keep the German people on board through media propaganda even in late 1944 when their cities were being absolutely demolished and they were clearly losing. It is said in several books on the subject that Dulles was most impressed by that feature of Hitler's Germany and studied that carefully, along with bringing many of the best and the brightest of the propaganda agents over. I'd just be satisfied with knowing every gov't dollar that goes into the media, and making it a felony to covertly influence the media in any way with public funds. Meanwhile we've got the net and meetings. At least until they control the net and ban public meetings.