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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (97618)5/8/2003 7:18:09 AM
From: NightOwl  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
No, ending terror isn't the program at all. The policy is to achieve a monopoly on the use of terror. Its use will be reserved, for us and our friends. And this is defined as "promoting democracy", and bringing freedom to the Middle East.

Point of Order Jacob.

I suppose it was inevitable, but I can no longer avoid asking. ...Just exactly what is it that's bothering you?

Is it the hypocrisy of humanity, or just the hypocrisy of the U.S?

Or are you urging us to forego the use of the expertise in the art of war that we spent Gazillions to develop and whose practice made us what we are today, i.e., King of the Hill?

Don't you like being on top? No. 1? The "Big Fish" in a small pond?

Surely it isn't just a democrat v republican thing. ...And I know you aren't critiquing just to critique. What is your bottom line? What is it you want?

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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (97618)5/8/2003 11:41:14 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Israel plays this exact same game. They bow to American pressure, and announce a settlement freeze. Then the Israeli government looks the other way while illegal settlements are started

Leaving aside the question of whether it's correct to consider blowing up buses and setting up trailers as morally equivalent, it is not the same game at all. Israel never gave over control of Area C and never agreed to stop all construction on that area. The US is trying to get a settlement freeze as a new concession.

Any? What about the Mujahedeen Khalq? What about the Israeli use of car bombs, targetted assasinations, and the constant civilian "collateral damage" these tactics cause?

So I gather you think that the US overthrow of the Taliban is exactly equivalent to, equally as terrorist as, September 11th? If you really believe that there is absolutely no difference between killing thousands of unarmed civilians and going after the killers so they cannot strike again, then there is really no use discussing the matter any further.