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To: one_less who wrote (6583)	6/25/2003 4:24:04 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

With all respect, Jewels..if perfect peace requires perfect justice, then it is unattainable. On the other hand, many people experience an ongoing sense of peace as a defining quality of their life. As Karen said and I concur, I don't know if it is helpful to couple peace with justice. After all, as a conceptual being I can never feel a full sense of justice where any injustice exists anywhere to anyone. At least that is what my comic book heroes used to say. <g> I don't know what you mean by a "troubled soul", but if you simply mean unhappiness then that would indeed seem incompatible with peace.

To: one_less who wrote (6583)	6/25/2003 5:43:04 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 7720

My point again is that having a troubled soul is incompatible with being at Peace? I agree with you that it is incompatible. So is unrelenting pain. So is a nuclear waste site down the block. So is enormous wealth, for that matter, because somebody always wants what you have. They are incompatible with peace, they don't define it. Different ideas.

To: one_less who wrote (6583)	6/25/2003 5:49:46 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

<<I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. >> -MLK