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To: Neocon who wrote (103007)	6/26/2003 2:48:11 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

'the territory is indisputably the historic homeland of the Jews' Not so, according to available historical record, apparently the canaanites have a prior claim ... unless there's a rule that says because you conquer it once you get to do so again, free pass .... one wonders if perhaps, third time's the charm ..... or is it, three strikes and you're out As for claiming legitimacy from a UN vote while ignoring votes of censure from the same body in re your fenced-up indigenous, well some typing could be done on that, by those with the time and inclination

To: Neocon who wrote (103007)	6/26/2003 3:15:15 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

What is bogus is the argument that the Jews were forced off involuntarily and therefore have a superior right to any other peoples to the land. The land is indisputably the historic homeland of many, many peoples, including Persians, Egyptians, Canaanites, Turks, Greeks, Romans, etc. etc. etc. None of whom have dibs. Prior to the UN stepping in and dividing it, the majority of inhabitants were Muslim Arabs, with a substantial minority of Jews and Christian Arabs. It would have been vastly preferable, from a moral standpoint, and a legal standpoint, that land should have been acquired only through purchase. That is the only legitimate way to acquire land. The only legitimate way to achieve power is through democracy. Sometimes the state has to temporarily take power, as the Allies did, temporarily, in Germany and Japan, but it is widely accepted that the Allies had no right to take over the land of Germany and Japan, merely because of conquest.