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Pastimes : SI vs. iHub - Battle of the Boards Part 2 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: SI Bob who wrote (4738)	8/31/2003 12:02:23 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 5315

As for SI's subscription being construed as a contract to allow posting, that's debatable, and apparently the previous legal department didn't want to see it debated in court. I feel no such reservations. Well, when I paid in to SI, you couldn't post at all unless you paid. No pay, no post. Pay, post. So I think you would have trouble making that argument for those who paid under the old regime. But of course, I'll never have to make the case, so you're safe from me.

To: SI Bob who wrote (4738)	8/31/2003 9:01:41 PM
From: Bux	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5315

Personally, I don't know why Bux is suspended over there and don't much care beyond academic curiosity. And this proves that young Matt pretty much has free reign to pick on particular members (or particular points of view) without oversight from the only (acknowledged) owner who is mature enough to see how unprofessionally the site is being run. I've already detailed the double standard applied by Matt here: Message 19243698 Anyone reading the two posts that I submitted as personal attacks on me can see they are actual violations of the TOU and yet Matt choose not to delete them and not to admonish the authors. I suspect if he asks over there, he'll be told. You suspect wrong Bob. As directed by the User Agreement, I've already contacted Matt privately and exchanged 6 polite and courteous e-mails (4 returned) before I came over here and they show a complete unwillingness on his part to discuss the problem in any meaningful way or to point out the violations except for what has already been posted here. That's no way to do business and I urge others not to make the same mistake I did when I subscribed to iHub. Bux

To: SI Bob who wrote (4738)	9/2/2003 3:09:16 AM
From: Bux	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5315

Bob, I believe you are wrong about this: "Payment there enables premium features, which should remain intact whether suspended or not (if not, I need to revisit the source code and fix that) and the only posting-related things that subscription enables is an increase in daily posting ability to effectively unlimited quantity and location, with suspension clamping down only on location." I'm not sure why you believe that premium features remain intact when suspended. I would think someone as familiar with the code as you would know they do not. I can't send private mail, I can't use the spell-checker, I can't use the search function, batch message viewing is disabled, etc. Effectively, now that I've paid for a lifetime subscription, I'm out $129. I tried to remedy the problem with Matt in a polite and courteous manner but he became abusive and terminated our correspondence. Now he has pretended to offer an "olive branch" but it begins with a "yawn" and ends with a solicitation for a rebuttal! I already gave him a rebuttal last week when he first told me my post was a personal attack. Why should I have to rebut his trumped up charges again? And why are the handfuls of personal attacks against me allowed to stand (even after I sent TOU violation notices to Matt using the appropriate form)? These are obvious and real personal attacks on me, not kangaroo charges like the ones brought against me. Why does my one post get me suspended indefinitely while NO ACTION was taken on these personal attacks against me?: Message 19261894 There's a lot more that needs fixing at Ihub than just the source code. Bux