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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (73900)	9/4/2003 5:16:12 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I think for clarity, you need to call it rape. Men need to know that if they are confused, they should stop. The bright line rule should be on the side of no sex. imo People will be hurt either way, obviously, but I think if the rule is clear, and men know they are accountable in even ambiguous situations, they will be more careful, and society has an interest in making them be more careful.

To: Neocon who wrote (73900)	9/4/2003 7:03:13 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

in the face of further aggressive advances, by ceasing to resist That's rape. Call it what you will, but if I'm on your jury, that's rape. At least if the woman has previously said no. Cessation of resistance is not sufficient. We all know that on the average men are stronger than woman. Cessation of resistance can simply be the woman's strategy to keep from getting seriously hurt. And that is particularly true if the man is drunk and lacks normal control. rarely does the guy do more than press himself against her If THAT'S all the guy does, it's not rape. It might be battery, but it's not rape. if he penetrates without permission THAT'S rape. aggressiveness, which is heavily associated with male sexuality The fact that you are male does not and should not provide a legal defense to a charge of rape. Or assault or battery or any number of other crimes.