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To: Joe S Pack who wrote (38458)	9/19/2003 4:24:10 PM
From: Joe S Pack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Who said that you should n't drink peeing? Here is a party that enjoyed it and now wants to keep it sealed. biz.yahoo.com Ex-Tyco Chief's Wants Party Tapes Sealed Friday September 19, 3:54 pm ET By Jeanne King NEW YORK (Reuters) - A lawyer for former Tyco International Ltd. (NYSE:TYC - News) Chairman Dennis Kozlowski on Friday requested to seal videotapes of a raucous $2 million party on Sardinia to ensure that potential jurors don't see footage before Kozlowski's criminal trial begins later this month. The issue surfaced during a pretrial hearing on Friday in Manhattan Supreme Court. Kozlowski's defense also wants to prevent prosecutors from introducing prior bad acts allegedly committed by Kozlowski. Jury selection for the trial is expected to begin Sept. 29. Kozlowski and Mark Swartz, Tyco's ex-finance chief, have pleaded not guilty to charges they looted Tyco out of $600 million through unauthorized pay and fraudulent stock sales. Tyco accuses Kozlowski of recklessly tapping company funds for his lavish lifestyle, including using company money for his second wife's 40th birthday party in Sardinia. During a pretrial hearing, Austin Campriello, a lawyer for Kozlowski, sought to have the Sardinia tapes sealed, which would prevent prosecutors from introducing their content should Kozlowski testify in his own defense. Kozlowski threw the party for his wife at the Hotel Cala di Volpe in Sardinia that featured an ice sculpture of Michelangelo's David with vodka streaming from his penis into crystal glasses, according to a 2002 Tyco report. Some of the footage shows an exploding birthday cake with a replica of a woman's breasts on top, according to people who have seen videotape footage. Tyco paid for most of the $2.1 million party that Kozlowski is accused of booking as a business expense, according to court records.

To: Joe S Pack who wrote (38458)	9/19/2003 6:21:32 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

>> have a theory called "rapid implosion" ... J6Ps, like sheeple everywhere around the world, have very short memory and short term pains won't make any difference.<< Are we (they, whoever...) really that smart, that J6P (not just in US but anywhere) can be dragged around by his nosering to our own (altruistic - need to get Mq worked up) content? My answer is an emphatic NO, for the following reasons: a) we (and all the rest of politicians, miracle workers and other BS artists) are per definition not that smart b) J6P is smarter than we think, it's just some direction, that needs to be fígured out (by another con artist I admit, but let's give dialectics some chance)

To: Joe S Pack who wrote (38458)	9/20/2003 2:19:33 AM
From: Seeker of Truth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Nat, Your kids didn't get a science teacher because the low salaries offered couldn't attract people who had some science training. County, state, federal --- no level wants to spend what's required, let alone demand certain standards. Those in control mostly send their children to private schools. It's the real tragedy of the US. Lots of rich people here in Canada want to imitate the US. Apres moi le deluge. Socialism fails because it does not offer good ways to reward inventiveness and diligence. Capitalism fails because the rich acquire the dominating political power, allowing them to minimize expenditures on education and health and often maximize expenditures on military adventures. Investing in the best companies of countries that go the middle way between socialism and capitalism seems to me like a reasonable investment strategy, in principle. In practice doing the research to find the good companies is difficult, particularly since those countries' citizens don't feel impelled to buy stocks to protect themselves against the otherwise inevitable old age poverty. So the stock markets are not active, literature about individual companies is not abundant and many important companies are private. Another strategy which proved tremendously successful in Japan in the period say 1964-1992, was to invest in manufacturing in an economy where millions and millions of farm boys and girls were turning into factory employees. (Now there are very few such farm "boys and girls" left in Japan now. The farmers are mostly old people.) China is such a place now. The key thing is to find some managements who have the viewpoint of gaining the shareholders very long term respect, so that their name alone brings loyal investors. They want to build an edifice for their grandchildren etc. to enjoy. Who is able to solve that problem will make an enormous fortune, I believe, at the same time as these particular Chinese entrepreneurs are doing so.