Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Strategies & Market Trends : Booms, Busts, and Recoveries -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (38638)	9/22/2003 10:02:49 AM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Respond to of 74559

in the main, i finally agree with something you said for a change. have you been taking writing lessons? it was understandable even.

To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (38638)	9/22/2003 11:03:08 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello Haim, <<you are so strongly against minimum wage>> I am against minimum wage because it is (a) government interference in the free market, and (b) as such, cannot work, but (c) cost a lot of money and destroys much creativity, thus (d) hold back societal progress and civilization building. Minimum wage is not what got civilization to where it is today. <<As a civilized world we should take care of those that are weak or can not compete, because they were born this way>> ... I am not against, and in fact am in favor of, charity, never failing to practice it every year. Charity is from the heart. Minimum wage is from bad logic. We must be generous in our heart, and must not take from one and give to another. <<what differentiate human from animal - compassion>> ... You are confusing compassion with bad logic, and charity with unworkable law. <<I respectfully disagree with your take that a total free capitalism society should rule>> … OK. <<... the same way that I think that Europe went a bit to much toward socialism>> ... difficult to draw the line, is it not? And who is to be the liner drawer? <<... example Einstein was no financial genius and if not for financial support for his "irrelevant science" at the time, we would be without nuclear power plants today>> ... I agree, and therefore I support charity. <<... based on your scenario Enron would continue to abuse our population as would be Tyco or Worldcom management>> ... actually not, because I do believe in government's role in punishing criminals. Do not change the subject ;0) <<We are still stuck with a sub-par operating system because some guy in Seattle has more talent in squashing competitors or buy their creativity for peanuts than writing creative software>> ... the creations were bought for what they were worth, and not a cent less. <<In a nutshell I do not like the society you think / envision will bring prosperity to ALL humans>> ... any society that brings prosperity to ALL humans is a communist society that exist only in theory and never in practice. <<true democracy and capitalism will not succeed>> ... slippery slope thinking. <<... those with qualities that enable them to exploit others hold the money and power to promote their false concept of society>> ... this will not change, false or true concept. Best to allow folks to decide for themselves on whether to follow the teachings of Confucius or adopt the rules of the Ten Commandments, and in any case, do the right thing. We should not take from one to give to another. We should not decide for others what they can work for. We should stay out of the way of private party transactions. To do otherwise necessitate big government, and big government has many leaders, and leaders are to be avoided as much as possible. When we start allowing some folks to determine what is right for others, we slip on the slope towards where we must not end up, like advocating thermo-nuclear war so as to balance trade accounts. <<Rest my case>> … same here:0) Chugs, Jay

To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (38638)	9/22/2003 11:13:54 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Haim: >>After all that what differentiate human from animal - compassion. << Yes. Do minimum wage requirements reflect compassion? I would not really know. They do however mirror some greatest common denominator of the society (or powers in play). To dispense with them, well, in a pretty much similar way one could also do without the penal code - and sheep would lie with lions etc. But, I guess, this is where probably Jay comes in: you just cant decree morale, ethics and fairness. You (ie government) must leave it to people. Or maybe not - check the much maligned collective bargaining in Germany. Or maybe not not - on the far side of this scale, you may face the big brother or sister taking it in their own hands - minimum wages and everything else -. [EDIT] darn, I thought Jay's sleeping already, but it's an exciting day all around the globe. I guess I got it right anyhow;