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To: elmatador who wrote (41836)	11/20/2003 9:39:07 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Problem is that it goes unchecked for a couple of generations and then it hits. Here in Toronto it anecdotally appears one generation is enough to see the effects...

To: elmatador who wrote (41836)	11/20/2003 10:50:39 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

<<I'm talking about quality of life, >> Ya just don't get it ...as usual... Some folks consider quality of life eating goodies gettin fat and sittin on their duff. Who are you to demand that they do it your way? << People accepts the smoke-police, don't they?>> Come on pal second hand smoking hurts "other" people. No one ever got heart trouble from the guy next to to'em eating a cheesburger and frys. <<Problem is that it goes unchecked for a couple of generations and then it hits.>> Now don't take offence elmat but it don't work that way. May I suggest a little reading? "Experiments with Plant Hybrids," by Gregor Mendel. Ya just gotta stop with the elitist attitude pal

To: elmatador who wrote (41836)	11/20/2003 11:00:54 PM
From: gg cox	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

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