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Politics : HOWARD DEAN -THE NEXT PRESIDENT? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (1142)	12/27/2003 12:18:18 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3079

I think the west coast, which is CA, OR, WA has major issues with the premise of the war in Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein. What part of the country do you feel supports this war, outside of the south? Northeast or Rust Belt maybe?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (1142)	12/27/2003 12:49:37 AM
From: sylvester80	Respond to of 3079

>>>>against ousting Saddam Hussein. YOU ARE WRONG!!!! He was AGAINST the Iraq war based on Bush's LIES about the fake WMDs. So don't give me this BS about Saddam. Taking out Saddam did NOT make America any safer. And the recent terror alert AFTER the capture of Saddam proves exactly that. In fact Bush made AMerica LESS SAFE with his illegal and unjust war and CREATED MORE terror and terrorists because he LIED and killed thousands of innocent people on these lies!!! Bush LIED and Americans and scores of innocent people women and children died... and dying still. Dean was right 100%! Bush is LIAR and lied about a threat that was never there. Iraq had NO WMDs and was NO threat to the U.S. Bush is a LIAR and a CRIMINAL!! >>>>2) His support for making gay marriages legal. DO you believe gays and lesbian are human people or not? If not, do you suggest we butcher them like animals after they become adult or do you want to kill them at birth? If you believe they are human people and not animals, then they deserve all the same rights and freedoms as you and me. BTW, you say you are Christian. What do you think Jesus Christ would have done with gays and lesbians? Think before you answer and use Jesus's life and actions as your guide... cause there is so much hypocrisy in the so called "Christian" right to fill Satan's hell 10 times over...

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (1142)	12/27/2003 1:24:24 AM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3079

One more thing about your gays issue. I hope you do know that "hate" is not a family value... especially you being Christian and all...

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (1142)	12/27/2003 3:04:28 AM
From: elpolvo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3079

ann- Dean's stand on 2 issues push him further to left than majority of American voters: 1) His protest against ousting Saddam Hussein. 2) His support for making gay marriages legal. not to argue against your opinions, but just to correct the right-wing twist on your misstatements about dean... 1)dean has NOT protested the ousting of Saddam Hussein. he protested the internationally unsupported pre-emptive invasion of a sovereign nation that was not a serious threat to other nations by falsely portraying them as a nation poised to attack america and other nations with weapons of mass destruction. here is his stand in his own words: "I opposed President Bush’s war in Iraq from the beginning. While Saddam Hussein’s regime was clearly evil and needed to be disarmed, it did not present an immediate threat to U.S. security that would justify going to war, particularly going to war alone. From the beginning, I felt that winning the war would not be the hard part; winning the peace would be. This Administration failed to plan for the postwar period as it did for the battle, and today we are paying the price." -Howard Dean 2)dean has neither supported nor opposed gay marriages. marriage is a religious ceremony. he DOES support states' rights to allow or disallow same-sex couples to enter into civil unions that would give them civil rights and benefits equal to opposite-sex couples. here is his stand, in his own words: "I will work to expand equal rights to same-sex couples and ban workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation, strengthen federal protections against anti-gay violence, give federal employees the right to name same-sex partners as beneficiaries, remove bias from our immigration laws, and end the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy." -Howard Dean