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To: michael97123 who wrote (123878)	1/28/2004 1:16:10 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Going forward, the lesson or iraq has to be that the govt needs to be totally honest with the public. How many times does this "lesson" have to be learned?

To: michael97123 who wrote (123878)	1/28/2004 1:23:31 PM
From: Rascal	Respond to of 281500

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To: michael97123 who wrote (123878)	1/28/2004 5:06:03 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi michael97123; Re: "That is because war has to be traditionally sold to a reluctant public." The American people have generally marched to war with great enthusiasm, and marched back a little more open eyed. The problem with Iraq and Vietnam, as far as selling the war goes, was convincing the public that they were worthwhile endeavors and that they were possible with a fairly low loss of life. So the Presidents involved fudged the data more than just a little. With Iraq, the loss of life is less than many feared, but the absence of a necessity for the war, or a victory in pacifying Iraq, makes those lives lost in vain. But for a war where the American nation's interests are clearly at issue, the American people support wars fairly well. -- Carl