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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30210)	2/17/2004 10:12:13 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793691

You don't remember protests happening in the faces of VIP's? You need to look that up. As for sending demonstrators a few blocks away, you might just want to think about free speech, and the protections it is supposed to offer, who it is supposed to protect us from, and why. I think you should be able to answer your own question after you think about all those things.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30210)	2/18/2004 12:04:00 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793691

So what exactly is the novelty Ashcrost is accused of? Sending the demonstrators an extra block or two away from the VIPs? Not "the demonstrators"! Just select demonstrators: "Americans who support Bush and his policies can raise signs in his praise and line the streets when his limousine passes by. Americans who do not support Bush and his policies must stay far away from the president by judicial decree or risk arrest. And I just checked out the first of the links, and see this: In what may be the first subpoena of its kind in decades," writes Ryan J. Foley of the Associated Press, "...a federal judge has ordered a university to turn over records about a gathering of anti-war activists." "In addition to the subpoena of Drake University," Foley continues, "subpoenas were served this past week on four of the activists who attended a Nov. 15 forum at the school, ordering them to appear before a grand jury Tuesday, the protesters said. Federal prosecutors refuse to comment on the subpoenas." So now you have two answers to your cavalier question, "So what exactly is the novelty Ashcrost is accused of? Sending the demonstrators an extra block or two away from the VIPs?" Edit: I see you wrote "an extra block or two away from the VIPs...." This is what it actually says at the link in response to which you posted that characterization of what you read: "They allow protesters to assemble in "free speech zones", which are often fenced-in areas hundreds of yards or even a mile away from the site of the President's appearance. Those who go to see the President speak, including the media, generally do not have an opportunity to see the protesters — they are kept safely out of the way, out of sight. So the President's fans are there to be witnessed, by other citizens and by the media, but his critics are fenced in hundreds of yards or even a mile away.