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To: NOW who wrote (39758)	3/17/2004 11:08:00 PM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

suspect the spin Among some circles, I suspect the spin will be "Satan has won". JMO lurqer

To: NOW who wrote (39758)	3/17/2004 11:30:59 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

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To: NOW who wrote (39758)	3/18/2004 9:31:38 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

AQ endorses Shrub.... Purported Al Qaeda Letter Calls Truce in Spain Wed Mar 17, 4:56 PM ET Add World - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Opheera McDoom CAIRO (Reuters) - A group claiming to have links with al Qaeda said on Wednesday it was calling a truce in its Spanish operations to see if the new Madrid government would withdraw its troops from Iraq (news - web sites), a pan-Arab newspaper said. Reuters Photo In a statement sent to the Arabic language daily al-Hayat, the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombings that killed 201 people, also urged its European units to stop all operations. "Because of this decision, the leadership has decided to stop all operations within the Spanish territories... until we know the intentions of the new government that has promised to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq," the statement said. "And we repeat this to all the brigades present in European lands: Stop all operations." Skepticism has greeted previous claims of responsibility by the group for attacks in Turkey and Iraq. U.S. officials say its links with Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al Qaeda network are unclear. An unrelated videotape of a man describing himself as al Qaeda's European military spokesman also claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombing, saying it was in retaliation for outgoing Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's domestically-unpopular support for the U.S.-led Iraq war. In a shock election result three days after the Madrid bombs, Spain voted in the Socialist party, which has since said it will probably withdraw its troops from Iraq. "The Spanish people... chose peace by choosing the party that was against the alliance with America," the statement said. WE WANT BUSH TO WIN The statement said it supported President Bush (news - web sites) in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom." In comments addressed to Bush, the group said: "Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization." "Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected." The group said its cells were ready for another attack and time was running out for allies of the United States. "Whose turn is it next? Will it be Japan or America, or Italy, Britain or Oslo or Australia?" the statement said, adding Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were also targets. The group is named after Muhammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs, a close bin Laden aide killed in the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan (news - web sites). story.news.yahoo.com

To: NOW who wrote (39758)	3/18/2004 10:56:52 AM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Bush's global credibility gap workingforchange.com There is little new in this article. While reading of the various spins in the first part, I thought of you. As for In fairness, there is chilling evidence suggesting that the ultimate outcome of Spain’s elections was exactly what al Qaeda had in mind. According to CNN, a December posting on an Internet message board used by al Qaeda and its sympathizers spelled out their plan to topple Spain’s incumbent government. “We think the Spanish government will not stand more than two blows, or three at the most, before it will be forced to withdraw because of the public pressure on it,” the al Qaeda document says. “If its forces remain after these blows, the victory of the Socialist Party will be almost guaranteed -- and the withdrawal of Spanish forces will be on its campaign manifesto.” Could such a dire prediction been possible without the assistance of the Bush Administration’s policies? the facts are the socialists were marginally ahead prior to the bombings, and what changed the election so radically was the Anzar government's ETA spin. This spin just reinforced the impression that Anzar had been lying all along. So again I'll maintain, it's almost never that the terrorists win, it's rather those with a neo-fascist mindset lose - by making blunder after blunder. JMO lurqer