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To: unclewest who wrote (35873)3/21/2004 10:14:16 AM
From: Michelino  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793914
 
As the rest of my post mentioned rather prophetically, you are perpetuating an urban legend(1). As I recall, the original e-mail first appeared in the inbox of the Manchester Union Leader. (For those of you reading that same comic book about Neville Chamberlain, my second line is a historical reference cum joke)

This brings to mind something I mentioned elsewhere. One thing we liberals have to overcome as this election continues to get fought in the gutter is that the Republican Leadership has the home court advantage.

(1) See snopes.com which, if you decide to continue to spread it, you might also want to repeat snopes.com and even snopes.com



To: unclewest who wrote (35873)3/21/2004 12:28:45 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793914
 
Boy, I hope this is BS!
Lindybill@scary.com

al-Qaida No. 2: We Have Briefcase Nukes
2 hours, 23 minutes ago AP via Yahoo


SYDNEY, Australia - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s terror network claims to have bought ready-made nuclear weapons on the black market in central Asia, the biographer of al-Qaida's No. 2 leader was quoted as telling an Australian television station.



In an interview scheduled to be televised on Monday, Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir said Ayman al-Zawahri claimed that "smart briefcase bombs" were available on the black market.

It was not clear when the interview between Mir and al-Zawahri took place.

U.S. intelligence agencies have long believed that al-Qaida attempted to acquire a nuclear device on the black market, but say there is no evidence it was successful.

In the interview with Australian Broadcasting Corp. television, parts of which were released Sunday, Mir recalled telling al-Zawahri it was difficult to believe that al-Qaida had nuclear weapons when the terror network didn't have the equipment to maintain or use them.

"Dr Ayman al-Zawahri laughed and he said `Mr. Mir, if you have $30 million, go to the black market in central Asia, contact any disgruntled Soviet scientist, and a lot of ... smart briefcase bombs are available,'" Mir said in the interview.

"They have contacted us, we sent our people to Moscow, to Tashkent, to other central Asian states and they negotiated, and we purchased some suitcase bombs," Mir quoted al-Zawahri as saying.

Al-Qaida has never hidden its interest in acquiring nuclear weapons.

The U.S. federal indictment of bin Laden charges that as far back as 1992 he "and others known and unknown, made efforts to obtain the components of nuclear weapons."

Bin Laden, in a November 2001 interview with a Pakistani journalist, boasted having hidden such components "as a deterrent." And in 1998, a Russian nuclear weapons design expert was investigated for allegedly working with bin Laden's Taliban allies.

It was revealed last month that Pakistan's top nuclear scientist had sold sensitive equipment and nuclear technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea (news - web sites), fueling fears the information could have also fallen into the hands of terrorists.

Earlier, Mir told Australian media that al-Zawahri also claimed to have visited Australia to recruit militants and collect funds.

"In those days, in early 1996, he was on a mission to organize his network all over the world," Mir was quoted as saying. "He told me he stopped for a while in Darwin (in northern Australia), he was ... looking for help and collecting funds."

Australia's Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said the government could not rule out the possibility that al-Zawahri visited Australia in the 1990s under a different name.

"Under his own name or any known alias he hasn't traveled to Australia," Ruddock told reporters Saturday. "That doesn't mean to say that he may not have come under some other false documentation, or some other alias that's not known to us."

Mir describe al-Zawahri as "the real brain behind Osama bin Laden."

"He is the real strategist, Osama bin Laden is only a front man," Mir was quoted as saying during the interview. "I think he is more dangerous than bin Laden."



Al-Zawahri — an Egyptian surgeon — is believed to be hiding in the rugged region around the Pakistan-Afghan border where U.S. and Pakistani troops are conducting a major operation against Taliban and al-Qaida forces.

He is said to have played a leading role in orchestrating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.



To: unclewest who wrote (35873)3/23/2004 3:35:24 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793914
 
We are getting cleaned out, UW.

Military News - Luring Commandos to the Dark Side
by James Dunnigan
March 22, 2004

The U.S. Army getting young men and women to join up in record numbers, and getting people already in to re-enlist. But there are serious problems with some key personnel who are being attracted to higher paying, and less dangerous, jobs in the civilian world. Special Forces troops, helicopter pilots, linguists and computer specialists are among the key people who are being recruited heavily by civilian firms. Offers of higher pay, less dangerous working conditions, and less time overseas, are proving attractive.

The army won't release numbers, but the losses of Special Forces "operators" to civilian security firms has been serious enough that a special task force has been set up to determine what it would take to compete with the civilian recruiters. Right now, the army only has about 5,000 Special Forces soldiers, plus a few hundred in training positions and another two thousand in the reserves. The four hundred Delta Force troops are also at risk. The most vulnerable Special Forces troops are those with twenty years service, and thus eligible to retire on half pay. These troops make about $60,000 a year in pay and benefits, and it's common for civilian firms to offer double or triple that amount (for a guy who's also collecting his pension). This is not the first time the army has had to deal with this problem. When the draft ended in the early 1970s, the army also lost the medical doctors it had, for decades, been able to draft. So large bonuses and other benefits were offered to get newly minted doctors to join the army.

The army is considering extra pay, especially for overseas service, plus additional civilian education and higher rank to keep Special Forces troops in uniform. Over the last two decades, about ten percent of the enlisted Special Forces troops were promoted to Warrant Officer rank. The five levels of Warrant Officer ranks parallel the first five officer ranks (2nd Lieutenant through Lieutenant Colonel) in pay and benefits, but not authority. Warrant Officers are addressed as "Mister Smith" by officers and troops (rather than as "Warrant Officer Smith") and are treated as officers, although they are basically senior NCOs. Some armies simply call their senior rank of NCOs "Warrant Officer." It would require Congressional action to allow the army to add hundreds, or thousands, of new Warrant Officer positions for senior Special Forces troops. This move would increase the pay of senior Special Forces operators by about a third. Other bonuses could increase the bump to 50 or 100 percent. SOCOM commanders will have to calculate how much they can afford to pay. But given the fact that a Special Forces operator with twenty years service has cost the army several million dollars in pay and training expenses, and two decades of effort, there is an incentive to do a whole lot to hang onto these guys.

Helicopter pilots are in a similar situation. Most of these men and women are warrant officers, and the army only produces about 500 new ones a year (for a force of 4,500 pilots). It costs about a million dollars to just get a newly minted pilot (most of the cost is the expense of using real, and expensive, aircraft.) It takes another million dollars, and two or three years, to get a really skilled pilot. Once a pilot gets married and starts raising a family, the idea of getting twice the pay for staying in one place, and not getting shot at, seem very attractive. The army has paid annual bonuses of over $10,000 in the past to try and halt the outflow of experienced pilots. What with all the overseas duty army pilots have been seeing of late, more, and larger, bonuses are probably on the way.

Linguists, especially if they can speak much needed languages like Arabic and Pushto, are also in great demand by civilian firms. The army is looking into cash bonuses and warrant ranks to keep these specialists as well. A new, and growing problem, if keeping computer and network specialists. This has actually been a problem for over half a century, but it has become more critical with the growing importance of the battlefield Internet and the proliferation of computers throughout the army. There's a special problem with linguists and computer specialists, as many of the valuable ones are still young (in their twenties) when they are tempted to go for higher civilian pay, and less dangerous working conditions.

The brass know that these experienced and highly skilled people are critical in the recent successes of the army. It’s going to take some exceptional leadership to get the money, and additional warrant officer slots, out of Congress, and then apply these benefits in such a way that the losses to civilian careers will be significantly reduced. At the moment, the civilian recruiters are causing much higher losses for the army than are terrorists or Iraqis and Afghans with guns.