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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127458)3/26/2004 11:47:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
What was lacking was the administration pushing all the independent agencies. It simply wasn't a high enough priority.


There's really no evidence for this, despite Clarke's insinuations. A number of people have reported that Tenet's warnings of impending attacks were growing frequent during the summer of 2001 (Rumsfield says he was running around "with his hair on fire"), and Tenet met with the President every morning. They just didn't have enough information to act on. Woodward reported this in his book about the Sept 11th period, Bush at War

If Bush had bombed the camps in Afghanistan before Sept 11th, it still wouldn't have stopped the plot, which had been five years in planning, and every adversary of President Bush would have accused him of triggering the September 11th attacks.



To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127458)3/27/2004 12:34:26 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"9/11...could have been prevented. I don't have a link..I think I heard it on the radio."

Wow. That's overwhelming.



To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127458)3/27/2004 4:18:09 AM
From: NightOwl  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
If Bush had the same high level high priority type meetings daily or every other day I think they would have stopped 9/11. There was enough info available...suspects training in airplanes...FBI agents with info. What was lacking was the administration pushing all the independent agencies. It simply wasn't a high enough priority.

Hmmmm...

If this was proof of anything Roosevelt, and most of his successor's would have to have been impeached. Except for Johnson of course. ...We would have had to shoot him.

Surprisingly enough, the President most likely to avoid conviction under this "Meet & Beat Standard" of public administration would be... Richard M. Nixon!

Of course... I didn't hear this from any media source so you might want to do your own DD.

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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127458)3/27/2004 4:48:14 AM
From: Elsewhere  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
In the case of 9/11 it could have been prevented. I don't have a link.

Well, if you google "prior knowledge terror" there are about 210,000 results but life is too short to explore all conspiracy swamps.



To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127458)3/27/2004 3:58:12 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Here's a link and the quote...thanks to Nadine for pointing out it was Richard Clarke's comments.

guardian.co.uk

"In December 99 we get similar kinds of evidence that al-Qaida was planning a similar kind of attack. President Clinton asks the national security adviser to hold daily meetings with the attorney-general, the CIA, FBI," Mr Clarke said.

"They go back to their departments from the White House and shake the departments out to the field offices to find out everything they can find. It becomes the number one priority of those agencies. When the head of the FBI and CIA have to go to the White House every day, things happen and by the way, we prevented the attack [an al-Qaida millennium bomb plot aimed at Los Angeles airport].

"Contrast that with June, July, August 2001, when the president is being briefed virtually every day in his morning intelligence briefing that something is about to happen, and he never chairs a meeting and he never asks Condi Rice to chair a meeting about what we're doing about stopping the attacks. She didn't hold one meeting during all those three months.

"Now, it turns out that buried in the FBI and CIA there was information about two of these al-Qaida terrorists who turned out to be hijackers [Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi]," he said. "The leadership of the FBI didn't know that, but if the leadership had to report on a daily basis ... to the White House, he would have shaken the trees and he would have found out those two guys were there. We would have put their pictures on the front page of every newspaper and we probably would have caught them."