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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: sea_urchin who wrote (7899)	8/23/2004 8:10:27 AM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

Then again, if, as you insist, oil is paramount to US elites then the Pentagon is barking up the wrong tree: the US military should be redeployed in Canada! Time for the yanks to occupy Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba! For, with crude oil at $50/bbl, Canada's oil sands are a steal: Do you think the US doesn't know about Canadian oil? Good point. You know what the answer is? The U.S. doesn't overtly interfere with other anglo countries like Canada. Arabs and other ethinic groups are fair game for U.S. policy makers, but fellow anglos are on the same team more or less, and wouldn't tolerate overt U.S. interference, so they are left alone. Besides, the U.S. can control Canadian oil sands when the price makes it worth it for the U.S. to do so, by buying up controlling stakes in the Canadian companies. One thing Gus has to realize about our attack against Iraq is that we were actually proded into attacking Iraq by an arab rival, Iran, not by Israel. Iran introduced the U.S. to Chabalis, the guy who told us the far flung stories about WMDs. Sure, Israel has benefitted from Saddam's fall from grace, but it was Iraq's rival Iran who really was pulling the strings, and trying to fan the flames of war. We did Iran a big favor by toppling Saddam.

To: sea_urchin who wrote (7899)	8/23/2004 11:01:34 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

Re: OK, let's presume you are correct, what is Israel's objective? Is the US engaged in a series of wars just so that Israel can acquire more land? Israel's objective? Let's talk about Likud's objective: >>To keep all of 1967's land-grab less the Gaza strip; >>To abort the creation of a Palestinian state; >>and, last but not least, to keep ALL of Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty --granting the Muslims a mere token/religious sovereignty over the al-Aqsa mosque proper. And, of course, the Gaza strip is to be handed over to Egypt, that is, Egypt will be offered an informal mandate over the Gaza strip.... As for the "oil factor", I've been searching the internet this morning... I was looking for documents on the FDR-king Saud meeting aboard the USS Quincy off Jeddah, in 1945... Up to a couple of years ago, the memorandum of that meeting was classified... I think the secret clause(s) of the FDR-Saud deal conceals the true nature of the US-Saudi relationship. Indeed, as I told BubbaFred on another thread (), the Saud family agreed to give up on Palestine in exchange for the Arabian Peninsula to become the "exclusive franchise" of the US as regards oil supply. Remember that, at the time, Iranian oil was still "British turf"... That's how the Saudi dynasty sold its soul to the (American) Devil... in exchange of huge oil revenues. And that's why Bin Laden and his fellow Islamists --rightly-- call the Saudis "religious quislings". The Saudis betrayed the Palestinians --and even all Muslims on the issue of Jerusalem (al-Aqsa). But then, what could the Saudis --or any other Beduin tribe for that matter-- have done to avert the loss of Palestine/Jerusalem back in 1945??? Only the Ottoman Turks managed to hold sway over Palestine --until their collapse following WWI. All in all, my point is that the US maintained troops and large military bases in the Arabian Peninsula not to protect the oil fields but to protect the Saudi quislings! Of course, it comes down to protecting the oil fields as well because any rebellion that would successfully topple the Saudi dynasty would, in turn, wreck the oil infrastructure to harm the American crusaders... Gus () Message 20438552