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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (143842)8/23/2004 11:46:34 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
"For me, as for LindyBill, the really fascinating aspect for the story is to watch the way it is percolating through New and Old Media."

For me its how it will affect the presidential campaign. So far it has helped bush by reversing their move to kerry after the dem convention. But at some point it will become counterproductive for bush reelection and since the convention is designed as an attempt to reach moderate and indy voters, the swiftboaters can do much harm in this. I have been a bush supporter but i do not want another tie outcome in this election. For bush to gain a clear win, he needs some moderates and indys to reverse. This will not happen with what they perceive as dirty politics is going on. So next week, bush needs this to die down but to me it appears that the vietnam revisionists and rt wing ideologues have gotten a hold of this and they like "being right" more than they like victory. LIke goldwater in 64 and mcgovern in 72 if you get my drift. mike



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (143842)8/23/2004 11:54:09 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Kerry Proven Liar--Again

"Lt. Kerry returned home from the war to make some outrageous statements and allegations... numerous criminal acts in violation of the law of war were cited by Kerry, disparaging those who had fought with honor in that conflict. Had war crimes been committed by US forces in Vietnam? Yes, but such acts were few and far between. Yet Lt. Kerry gave numerous speeches and testimony before Congress inappropriately leading his audiences to believe that what was only an anomaly in the conduct of America's fighting men was an epidemic. Furthermore, he suggested that they were being encouraged to violated the law of war by those within the chain of command.
Very specific orders, on file at the Vietnam archives at Texas Tech University, were issued by my father [Admiral Elmo Zumwalt] and others in his chain of command instructing subordinates to act responsibly in preserving the life and property of Vietnamese civilians."

-- Lt. Col. James Zumwalt, USMC (retired)



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (143842)8/23/2004 12:02:02 PM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 281500
 
The behavior of the media reminds me of when I was a boy scout learning to flip pancakes over a camp fire. When it's done on one side, flip it over to the other side. I flipped my pancake, then stepped back--into my tentmate's frying pan.

For me, as for LindyBill, the really fascinating aspect for the story is to watch the way it is percolating through New and Old Media.