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To: Jamey who wrote (21999)	11/27/2004 3:56:41 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81023

James > expressed by Holy men who were given his words through divine inspiration, shall outlast the prideful words of man Therein lies the problem and the contradiction. There is no way anyone can know whether the words given through "divine inspiration" were not "the prideful words of man". It is simply a matter of what anyone chooses to believe -- and skillful marketing. > It has been attacked throughout the ages but no man has been able to quench it's divine purpose. Unfortunately, the "words" have also been twisted and distorted over the ages so that it is now impossible to know what was "divinely inspired" and what was not. A word is a word is a word. > we think we're quite intellectual- reason is better than truth that has been tried and tempered by fire and violent suppression throughout the ages. Unfortunately, there are so many versions of this truth, and genres of believers, each one believing that his version is correct. Is there a correct one? And, indeed, if this this "truth" can give rise to people like W (and many like him), someone who can unleash the forces of war on innocent people, including children, then, as far as I am concerned, this is no truth. And he is an imposter. > We are no more intellectual than those throughout history who have tried, without success, to destroy God's Word. Nor are we sufficiently humble to receive it. Piety is not humility, nor is self-righteousness. > I thank you for at least giving it a benefit of doubt. (smile) You needn't thank me -- and I do not give the true "word" of God any doubt. The only word I doubt is the word of imposters -- those who pretend to receive the "word" and then claim exclusivity and Divine inspiration because they do. Every living creature, and indeed, inanimate object, on this earth is here because of God -- and not because of any religion -- all of which are simply imposters -- each one claiming an exclusive purpose for itself and its adherents -- and each one bringing more evil in its attempt to bring good. History is ample proof of that. And, you are no more a disciple of God -- or, indeed, a child of God, than I am or anyone else is. That was Jesus' position with the rabbis -- and for that he was crucified. Jesus had a lesson for everyone -- unfortunately, very few heard it.

To: Jamey who wrote (21999)	11/27/2004 11:17:25 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81023

Re: the word of God expressed by Holy men who were given his words through divine inspiration, shall outlast the prideful words of man. Does it cross your weak mind that thousands of these so-called Holy Men have been charlatans, trying to take advantage of the weak-minded with fanciful fairy tales and maladaptive mythologies? Here's one of your Holy Men: gregpalast.com The man is a fraud. Period. End of the story. And he's only one of the more colorful one of this endless list of charlatans. * If you want a picture of pure evil, dressed up as holy men's truth, check out these videos: theocracywatch.org * Re: We are no more intellectual than those throughout history who have tried, without success, to destroy God's Word. I see logic isn't one of your strong suites. You clearly aren't very intellectual. If you were, you'd be more like me. A complete skeptic about all the phony nonsense that is passed down from generation to generation as High Priests become inordinately wealthy (think Vatican riches) while their "flock" gets fleeced generation after generation, tithing away their money to the churches. Here's another Holy Man for you: app.com $800,000 embezzled. This guy is getting close to the Hall of Shame status of a Pat Robertson. :) *** But there are some wonderful and extravagant "Holy Men" in the past as well. How about that Pope Leo X? "When he became pope on March 11, 1513, Leo rejoiced; he is reported to have said to his brother Giuliano "Since God has given us the papacy, let us enjoy it." And he did, traveling around Rome at the head of a lavish parade featuring panthers, jesters, and Hanno, a white elephant. He served dinners with sixty-five courses at which little boys jumped out of puddings." en.wikipedia.org Holy Tapioca!