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To: Neocon who wrote (155454)	1/7/2005 11:15:03 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The issue might also be construed as the "reasonableness" of trying to find intelligence that justified a certain POV, and operational mindset. There has been a lot of information given to us little non-professionals about the pressuring of intelligence gatherers, AND interpreters of intelligence by the Bush white house. That kind of pressure is not going to give you a very professional result, and it is only reasonable if you think intelligence is something you bend to suit your fancy, rather then bending your plans to suit the intelligence.

To: Neocon who wrote (155454)	1/7/2005 10:54:43 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Neocon, surely you've been around long enough to take "expert" advice with a grain of salt. Intelligence agencies are notoriously wonky. There is something about the mindset of dominance heirarchy enthusiasts which is blinding to rationality. Even those not blinded know to shut up, keep their head down, and do as they are told. There is self-censorship galore in such organisations. Some of it is just mindless chanting of the party line, which is not even censorship as the chanter doesn't realize they are doing it. They believe, strongly. Others chant in the interests of their own benefits, censoring any doubts they might have. I wouldn't fancy the chances of anyone in King George II's court who deigned to suggest that everyone was off on a wild goose chase based on hearsay evidence, and that they should all get something else more useful to do. They would probably be given a new job as clerical assistant to the under-secretary for the ambassador to Mauritius, or maybe somewhere less pleasant. "Privy to information" giggle... those retarded-development 12 year old boys love their secret clubs. "Methods of analysis" ... hahaha... like techniques of looking at photos - "First, hold it up the right way. Put on reading glasses..." Mqurice