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To: TimF who wrote (217580)	2/5/2005 3:48:39 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575207

But they can't own land. If true (and I'd like to see an up to date, non Arab, link to that please), In checking it out, I found that the issue is in dispute with Israel claiming that Israeli Arabs are not discriminated against when it comes to possession of the Israeli land while the Israeli Arabs claim they are. What makes it difficult to determine accurately is that most of the land is not privately owned but rather is held by the gov't and leased out. Most of the amount that's not owned by the gov't is owned by an Israeli org. called JNF. JNF also does not sell the land....instead they lease it out too. The Arabs claim that its very difficult for them to get a lease compared to the Jews. The Israeli gov't claims otherwise........that there is no discrimination. However, the broader issue argued between you and Elroy is whether or not Israel is a democracy. Recently, there was an audit of all the major nations of the world to determine who were most democratic and who were not. These nations were divided into 4 groupings. Group one was made up of the nations most democratic and includes the US. Group 4 was the least democratic. Israel was in Group 3 along with the likes of Brazil, Mexico, Nicaragua and Sri Lanka. I am unclear why Israel had such a poor showing but I suspect it may have to do with its treatment of both the Israeli and Palestinian Arabs. worldaudit.org ted

To: TimF who wrote (217580)	2/5/2005 10:21:17 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575207

If true (and I'd like to see an up to date, non Arab, link to that please), it would be unjust but it would not be an argument that Israel isn't a democracy. A quick search on Google for Israel Arab land turned up this. If you REALLY care to learn about it you can find out plenty yourself.... countrystudies.us To the Israeli Arabs, one of the more devastating aspects of the loss of their property was their knowledge that the loss was legally irreversible. The early Zionist settlers--particularly those of the Second Aliyah--adopted a rigid policy that land purchased or in any way acquired by a Jewish organization or individual could never again be sold, leased, or rented to a nonJew . The policy went so far as to preclude the use of non-Jewish labor on the land. This policy was carried over into the new state. At independence the State of Israel succeeded to the "state lands" of the British Mandate Authority, which had "inherited" the lands held by the government of the Ottoman Empire. The Jewish National Fund was the operating and controlling agency of the Land Development Authority and ensured that land once held by Jews-- either individually or by the "sovereign state of the Jewish people"--did not revert to non-Jews. This denied Israel's nonJewish , mostly Arab, population access to about 95 percent of the land.