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To: RetiredNow who wrote (217671)2/5/2005 4:09:13 PM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575422
 
when you live in the ME it is very possible that the media coverage of what takes place in Israel is somewhat limited.
I don't know, however, because I never spent any significant time over there.

Access to personal Sat TV should, however, compensate for that.

Taro



To: RetiredNow who wrote (217671)2/5/2005 4:26:32 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575422
 
Israel/Jews suspected of assassination plot...................

Clark hints at chilling motive - Jul 16, 2004

The Prime Minister has speculated that Israel may have wanted New Zealand passports in order to carry out assassinations in another country.

On Thursday suspected Israeli spies Urie Kelman and Eli Cara were sentenced to six months jail for trying to fraudulently obtain a New Zealand passport.

Minutes after the sentencing Helen Clark suspended diplomatic relations with Israel and said she was still waiting for an official apology.

Now she has compared the New Zealand fraud to a previous case in Canada involving an assassination attempt.

"I can't comment on what they might have done but I can point to the precedent when the Canadian passport system was penetrated and agents involved in an assassination attempt in another country were using those false passports," says Clark.

She says it is "entirely a possibility" that the same scenario could be applied to the New Zealand case.

Israel is now trying to repair the damage of New Zealand's move to cut diplomatic ties.

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom says the two countries have a very long history of good relations.

"We will do everything we can in order to improve our relations and bring them back to the same stage that they were before," says Shalom.

But former diplomat Terrence O'Brien says the New Zealand-Israel relationship was already thin, with low levels of trade and no embassy in either country.

Meanwhile, lawyers acting for the two Israelis are considering appeals, despite both men pleading guilty.

They claim their clients were denied a fair trial because the government leaked information about their connections with the spy agency, Mossad.

Clark denies this and says when the lawyers tried to run that argument at an earlier stage of the judicial proceedings "they got nowhere".

tvnz.co.nz
<http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/436575%3fformat=html>




To: RetiredNow who wrote (217671)2/5/2005 5:42:56 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575422
 
Right now, as I write this, Palestinians are guarding Northern Gaza. Yet Palestinians are still attacking Israelis. Israel allowed the Palestinians the right to police the area as a goodwill gesture to Abbas. In the past, Israel has pulled out of Gaza and portions of the West Bank in similar goodwill gestures. However, the Palestinians have always used thos opportunities to build tunnels and build up arms, then terrorize Israelis. Those actions bring the Israelis right back in. Let's see how long the Palestinians can manage to police Gaza by themselves

Let me ask you MM......what would you do if the US was weakened severely by a series of catastrophic events and Mexico decided to take advantage of the situation by claiming that Texans and New Mexicans were coming over the border to steal their food, necessitating their invasion of both states and securing the populations in both those states. How would you react to such a move? Would you make no efforts to get NM and TX back?

[Just for the record and in the interest of honesty, I would give them TX and try to negotiate NM back. Sorry TP and CJ but you gave us Bush. <g>]

Seriously, what would you do?

ted



To: RetiredNow who wrote (217671)2/6/2005 2:47:42 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575422
 
In the past, Israel has pulled out of Gaza and portions of the West Bank in similar goodwill gestures.

mindmeld, you've heard of the "settlements", right? Do you know where they are located? Just answer me this question before we continue this discussion.