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To: Lane3 who wrote (364)	3/9/2005 12:06:35 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 777

"You did nothing for Lance Armstrong." Of course, I never claimed I did. That was your example. As for my son, it is HIS accomplishments I am proud of, not my minor contributions. Taking pride in myself for his accomplishments seems like trying to grab some of the credit. Supporting him is my responsibility. I don't need credit.

To: Lane3 who wrote (364)	3/9/2005 12:31:34 PM
From: Kevin Rose	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 777

What did you feel when Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon? What did you feel when Kennedy said "We choose to go to the moon? We choose to go to the moon..." Ok, I was a toddler for the second one. But I know I felt pride, in that our society would reach above our petty pursuit of individual happiness and tendency to be gourmands (ok, I only used that one because it was word-of-the-day on dictionary.com) towards a goal that, well, ennobles us. Looking back, made me proud to be an American, though I had nothing to do with that effort. At some points I feel proud to be an American, yet at other times (e.g. Abu Ghraib) I feel shame. I don't think you can have it both ways. So, am I constantly proud to be an American? Certainly not. I think of pride as more of a transient emotion, not a permanent state...