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To: shades who wrote (28604)	3/23/2005 5:28:46 PM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

OT shades, RE: "If aggressive men is all it takes to make all women celibate - Certainly Grace when faced with either extinction of your nation or having to "tolerate" neanderthal for a few hours - the survival instinct would prevail no? I guess not" You have a remarkable ability to blame Grace for her husband's decision. As Grace had suggested, maybe you should look in the mirror and consider the flaw in your thinking or open your search to the type of women that trick men into pregnancy. Where's your hate-filled talk about, "cursed be the non-breeders!" in regards to men that don't want children? Where's the consistency here? Or, is your hate-filled talk only reserved for women? It's truly amazing to see a post that blames a women for her husband's decision, a painful decision he has a right to make, additionally your post essentially advocates tricking or raping a man. Yeesh. Amy J

To: shades who wrote (28604)	3/23/2005 9:17:29 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

what are you some kind of nut... yes I think so

To: shades who wrote (28604)	3/24/2005 5:14:28 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

If you really think Bible and some duty to God to "breed" is why women want children (and go through the agony of childbirth, deformation of their bodies, and myriad ills related to them) you really don't know anything about women. Then again, I would imagine that a woman who wants children would agree on this with the future husband before marriage, but that is another matter - a personal one on which nobody can really comment. All I know is that if my husband said he changed his mind and decided not to have children, he would still get them. And would thank me for it afterwards, once he held a baby who would grab his finger with her cute little fingers. However, every person and every relationship is different, and neither you nor anyone else has the right to judge Grace on such a personal decision as whether or not to have children.