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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Claude Cormier who wrote (4716)	4/24/2005 1:23:21 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37670

Any of that born-again 'social conservative' nonsense out of the tory party and i'll turn my back on them too ... the great majority out here would, it's not that different from where you are .... 'The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation' - no matter what you think of Trudeau in other respects, he was right in that Another thing no canadian party can do and expect to survive, is threaten universal healthcare .... it's in the founding charter of the Conservatives that the party is committed to it, so they thought of that, smart guys .... and i guess, score one for Tommy Douglas

To: Claude Cormier who wrote (4716)	4/24/2005 1:32:55 AM
From: SofaSpud	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 37670

... their anti-abortion & anti-gay attitudes ... They've said that they will have no bills with respect to abortion. They've said that they are quite content with registered domestic partnerships that accommodate pension entitlements and such. To pick up on a comment from Gulo, these are stances that would have been too far out for the NDP in the memory of some of us born in the 60s. If you've decided that you hate the Conservatives, and that the Liberals (hideous warts and all) are what you want, then fine. That's your democratic right. The BNA Act promised "Peace, Order and Good Government." There are Canadians out there who don't believe that the Liberals have kept that covenant. If you think that we've had "good government", by all means, reward those guys. Don't piss on those Canadians who think we can expect better as somehow "un-Canadian." As much as I might have something to say on abortion or gay rights, I happen to think that there are far more pressing issues. Like sovereignty, as expressed through a viable coastal surveillance system, or a considered immigration policy. Or criminal justice, like in giving appropriate resources to the RCMP. The federal government has been so busy issuing press releases on hot-button issues that they haven't bothered to take care of their constitutional responsibilities. It would be nice for a change if they performed effectively and well the responsibilities of the federal government before they selectively beat up on the provinces.