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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (181002)	5/6/2005 1:55:23 PM
From: Sam Citron	Respond to of 186894

Friedman is not disputing that we have fabulous graduate schools in engineering. Problem is that their ranks are being filled primarily with bright Chinese and Indians because those countries have stronger science and math programs at the primary and secondary school levels.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (181002)	5/6/2005 1:57:30 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: The US has the best engineering schools in the world Not really.....in fact, not even close. Indians use Harvard and MIT as a fallback for India's most prestigious university, the Indian Institute of Technology. To say we have the best engineering schools is simply untrue. iitd.ernet.in Last year, 178,000 high school seniors took the entrance exam called the JEE. Just over 3,500 were accepted or less than 2 percent. Compare that with Harvard, say, which accepts about 10 percent of its applicants ... icbs.com

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (181002)	5/6/2005 3:48:52 PM
From: Elmer Phud	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Lizzie I disagree. It is very difficult to find qualified engineers in the US. Additionally, staffing overseas is not nearly as effective it is may appear. Sure salaries are lower but in Malaysia for example the experience level is low and they are job hopping much like the 80s in Silicon Valley. Language and cultural differences can make dealing with an offshore design team very difficult. I don't think companies do it so much because they want to, it's because they have to.