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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (686004)6/17/2005 2:47:16 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
Durbin Digs In
Dick Durbin of Illinois, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat, is refusing to apologize for likening U.S. servicemen to Nazis, comments we noted yesterday. Instead, as the State Journal-Register of Springfield reports, Durbin issued a statement that said, "This administration should apologize to the American people for abandoning the Geneva Conventions."

In truth, it isn't the Bush administration that is abandoning the Geneva Conventions. It is the critics, such as Amnesty International, who insist that terrorists should be protected under the conventions as if they were legitimate soldiers or civilians. The purpose of the Geneva Conventions is not to protect combatants' "human rights" but to spell out the rules of war, rules that impose reciprocal obligations on both sides of a conflict.

A central reason for those rules is to protect civilians by declaring that they are not legitimate targets of military action. Combatants who pose as civilians (i.e., do not wear uniforms) or who target civilians are spies and terrorists respectively and are not entitled to protection as prisoners of war. Indeed, Durbin acknowledged in his Senate speech that "the Geneva Conventions do not give POW status to terrorists."

But he went on to insist that the conventions "protect everyone captured during wartime." He bases this on the "official commentary on the convention," which states that "nobody in enemy hands can fall outside the law." Durbin is unclear as to just what protection he thinks al Qaeda terrorists should get. And little wonder, because the implication of his comments is that terrorists are entitled to protection as civilians.

As the Amnesty International report linked above notes, the source of the commentary Durbin quoted is the International Committee on the Red Cross, and it refers to Article 4 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which protects civilians captured during wartime. Yet the actual text of Article 4 says something quite different:

Nationals of a neutral State who find themselves in the territory of a belligerent State, and nationals of a co-belligerent State, shall not be regarded as protected persons while the State of which they are nationals has normal diplomatic representation in the State in whose hands they are.

This would exclude someone like Mohammed al-Qahtani, the Saudi national whose "torture" at the lungs of Christina Aguilera made the cover of Time this week. As a matter of international law, his fate has nothing to do with the Geneva Conventions but is a matter between Washington and Riyadh.

In any case, if Dick Durbin thinks terrorists are the moral or legal equivalent of civilians, let him say so directly. And even if this is a legitimate point of view, it doesn't excuse his smearing American soldiers as Nazi-like.



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (686004)6/17/2005 2:47:37 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
In any case, if Dick Durbin thinks terrorists are the moral or legal equivalent of civilians, let him say so directly. And even if this is a legitimate point of view, it doesn't excuse his smearing American soldiers as Nazi-like.



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (686004)6/17/2005 2:48:32 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Bob Tyrrell stands by his view that Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean "is not a nut" but merely plays one on TV:

He is a skilled politician talking to his party's activists, and this "raw meat" is just what his activists want. . . . The activists are by nature excitable and actually in need of excitement. Dr. Dean understands them. . . .

The paranoiacs in the Democratic Party are those who talk of a "vast right-wing conspiracy," to a general audience of American television watchers. They are the Democratic leaders who accuse journalists of playing "into the service of the right wing," as Democratic minority leader Richard Durbin recently did when he chastised the press for reporting Dr. Dean's outbursts. Mr. Durbin went on, "I think we understand what's happening with you all [the journalists]. The right wing has got the agenda moving. . . . You've bought into it. You can't let up on it. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves."

Now that is another example of what in American history is called the paranoid style. It seems to afflict many leaders of the Democratic Party, first the Clintons, now Mr. Durbin. By comparison with them, Dr. Dean is a perfectly sensible chairman of his party.

Tyrrell may be on to something. Check out this DemocraticUnderground.com post from someone using the handle DemocracyInaction (quoting verbatim):

I've been a Dem since the 1960's and it wasn't until like four years ago that I started to get these "dark" thoughts. For some reason it was the attack lately on Dean (who wasn't my candidate in '04)that brought it all back to me.

I believe that there is a large group of our politicians who want us to remain in the minority and who do not want to see us again in the White House. I believe the Republican majority and presidency provides them "cover". I think they no more give a rat's ass about "the people" than the repukes do and want the nation's wealth and power to be handed wholesale over to the wealthy and the corporations. Thus, if they were in the majority they would have to vote for legislation that takes care of these entities that own them and by doing so, reveal to their constituents exactly who they are. This way they can let things become law with little or no fight, play "I love you" to the hometown crowd to get re-elected, keep the lid on things so that the repukes are protected from the people becoming really angry and throwing repukes out, and now and then cast a deciding vote with the repukes if it becomes necessary.

I'm now beginning to believe that rather than a few rotten apples, we are talking the organizational force behind it all. I think that is why this "group" wants and needs to get Dean out. They do not want a strong Dem party. They want a lucrative job lining their own pockets---at our expense.

Am I getting too paranoid?? It seems every time I turn around I'm seeing this kind of behavior from a group of Dems. Every time our "boat starts to float", they try to discreetly punch a hole in the bottom.

But wait a minute. Suppose the Republicans and Democrats really were conspiring to keep the "repukes" in power and the Dems in the minority. What kind of DNC chairman would they want? Well, how about someone given to shooting off his mouth and drumming up the base while insulting vast numbers of voters? Isn't it clear that Howard Dean is in on the conspiracy? DemocracyInaction isn't paranoid enough.



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (686004)6/17/2005 2:49:54 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
We've never been to Seattle, but the place sounds like a regular loony bin to judge by an article in Seattle Weekly about the local political culture. Author Matt Rosenberg argues that Republicans may eventually make inroads in the indigo city, but what caught our attention was the anecdotes about political harassment at the hands of the Angry Left:

• Mary Segesta, 40, of Fremont, is a Microsoft program manager who moved here after working for Apple Computer and Sun Microsystems in the San Francisco Bay Area. She had a "W" sticker on her car last fall and was driving to Office Depot in Ballard. "This old beat-up car made a turnaround. The guy followed me toward the store. In the lot he was screaming, 'How does it feel to be a communist?' He pointed to my car and the sticker, said something about Hitler, and then repeated his question." Segesta brushed him off, but says she found the incident both comical and sad.

• Warren Peterson of Pinehurst, in the city's North End, served one term as a Republican state representative from Seattle's 43rd District in the mid-'70s. More recently, the soft-spoken, circumspect Boeing retiree, 65, was the Bush-Cheney campaign chair in the 46th. At a North Seattle sandwich shop, he shares some war stories. Out with several other volunteers waving Bush-Cheney signs at motorists in Ballard last fall, he says one man leaped up through his open sun roof, flipped him off, and yelled, "GUY! YOU FAGGOT REPUBLICAN!" Another driver lunged over his son in the front passenger seat, who looked all of 10, to flip off a Bush supporter.

• Ross Marzolf, 50, lives in the Central District. He's the executive director of the King County Republican Party. Last fall, he says, he was shopping--as some urban Republicans do, actually--at an organic foods store, the Madison Market. "I was standing in line and heard one clerk say to another, 'I just saw my first Bush supporter.' I said, 'I guess I'm No. 2, then.' He looked at me like I was from Mars and, as I was leaving, said something about the president dying and having a good funeral." Disturbed, Marzolf later contacted the management and got an apology, but no longer shops there.

We've gotten our own taste of the Seattle political culture from a reader there who e-mails us almost every day to let us know what he thinks of our column. Here's one recent offering, replying to our item Tuesday on George Voinovich's crying fit (quoting verbatim):

Voinovich does not hew to the Rove line, so he sends lap dogs like you out to assassinate the character of the Senator from Ohio. We have seen this act before James and it is getting real old real fast and real odious. You and Bolton and the Smirking Chimp and Cheney and Delay and the rest of the corrupt crew deserve each other.

But whatever happens Hell Boy, in spite of your weakened mental state and your lock-step response to the RNC memos, I would advise you to watch your Ps & Qs because the Very Reverend Frist, Born Again Delay, the Odious Santorum (whose ratings, like the Fly Boy Chimp are falling as I write) and the rest of the American Taliban are always on the lookout for heretics. And you could very well be next.

You know what I mean: "Back in April 2003, we argued that polygamy would be far worse for society than same-sex marriage"

This is heresy dude. Better watch your back . . .

Maybe it's something in the coffee?



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (686004)6/17/2005 2:52:58 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Terrorism for Everyman
Is America losing the will to fight?

BY DANIEL HENNINGER
Friday, June 17, 2005 12:01 a.m.

As far as I can tell, this is the recent news out of Iraq:
Yesterday: "Six U.S. Servicemen Die in Iraq Violence."

Wednesday: "Surge of Violence Leaves 52 Dead in Iraq."

Monday: "Iraq-Bombing Update: Additional Bombings, Death Toll 10."

It is possible to extend this headline exercise of Iraq news to the horizon. As a physical principle no less established than the second law of thermodynamics, U.S. opinion polls in June outputted these headlines and stories:

June 12: "A Growing Public Restlessness: The June [Post-ABC News] survey found that 58% of its 1,002 respondents now disapprove of the way Bush is handling both the economy and the situation in Iraq.

June 11, AP: "Only 41% said they support Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, also a low-water mark." The "war," of course extends no further than these bombing reports.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the maestro of the Iraqi civilian slaughterhouse, has produced a steady shower of human blood, and as often happens, blood has been a public-opinion downer. Perhaps in his next life al-Zarqawi can come back as an American marketing consultant. Having established there is a U.S. market for American-associated death in Iraq, such as the front page of the Yahoo! news portal, al-Zarqawi is supplying it with daily product. The up-or-down polls he reads are his profit-and- loss statement.

The June ABC-Washington Post poll asked: "All in all, considering the costs to the United States versus the benefits to the United States, do you think the war with Iraq was worth fighting, or not?" 58% said No.

Precisely what conclusion is one expected to arrive at from any of this? If George Bush had never invaded Iraq, none of this would be happening? Or, if we removed our troops from Iraq, these bombings would stop? Or perhaps they will still be bombed, but we in the U.S. will not likely experience anything very bad?
If we removed our troops from Iraq, the terror would not stop. But the U.S. news of innocent civilians blown up in Iraq would move to the unread round-up columns. Then, in a way, the phenomenon of terror would indeed shrink--to this:

December 2004: A powerful explosion ripped through a market packed with Christmas shoppers in the southern Philippines yesterday, killing at least 15 people and injuring 58.

According to the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (established after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing), there have been about 8,300 terrorist bombings in the world the past 10 years. They have killed more than 10,000 human beings and injured--often appallingly, one assumes--some 43,000 people. (There are separate tallies for arson, kidnapping, hijacking, etc. September 11 is listed as an "unconventional attack.")

May 3, 2002: A bomb attack on a church in western Colombia has left at least 60 civilians dead and about 100 others injured. Officials are blaming FARC guerrillas for the bombing.

Before September 11 happened in the United States, and ever since, factions with grievances have been blowing up unprotected people going about the act of daily life--shopping, praying, taking their children to school, laughing with friends, burying the dead--all over the world. Places where the sudden cloudbursts of blood don't always merit our front pages include Spain, Colombia, Israel, Sri Lanka, Kashmir, Northern Ireland, Russia, Afghanistan, India, the Philippines, Indonesia, Egypt and elsewhere.

July 7, 2004: At least five people were killed and 11 wounded when a suspected Tamil Tiger suicide bomber blew herself up inside a police station in the Sri Lankan capital.

Living in the U.S., one could make the cold-blooded calculation that 21,000 dead and 55,000 injured from all terrorist acts over 10 years is a drop in the bucket and that the war in Iraq has mainly increased the rate of death. This may be true. But if as many suicide bombs went off in Manhattan as have gone off in Israel, Manhattanites would have demanded martial law and the summary execution of suspects on street corners. Their greatest goal in life would not be, as it is now, the closing of interrogation rooms on Guantanamo but instead the erasure of terrorists hiding across the East River.

Feb. 9, 2005: A car bomb exploded near Madrid's main convention center, injuring 43 people, hours before Spanish and Mexican leaders were due there and after a warning from the Basque separatist group ETA. It was the worst blast in the Spanish capital since last year's March 11 al Qaeda train bombings.

No matter how fat the diet of stories about Iraq suicide bombings or Gitmo shoved down our throats and no matter how many distraught opinion-poll results come back up, no serious person can allow post-9/11 American security to be reduced to that.

The death march of homicidal zombies in Iraq is trying to push us toward accepting the idea that acts of unrestrained violence against other human beings is now a normal part of politics. It is not normal. Any civilized person should want to resist the normalization of civilian killing as a political act--whether in Iraq, Spain, Indonesia or Kashmir.

These matters have been at the heart of John Bolton's marooned nomination to the U.N. Mr. Bolton's adversaries criticize his impatience with large bureaucracies tasked to the war on terror, such as the State Department, and worry he won't respect the U.N. "system."
The U.N. itself has never been able to even agree on a definition of terror. A high-level U.N. panel bluntly concluded last year: "Lack of agreement on a clear and well-known definition undermines the normative and moral stance against terrorism and has stained the United Nations' image."

Little wonder, then, that our own news coverage of these repeated slaughters of civilians in Iraq also lacks any normative or moral context unfavorable to the perpetrators. And little wonder that in such a world the only "side" many people in the U.S. feel comfortable with is heading for the exits.
Mr. Henninger is deputy editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. His column appears Fridays in the Journal and on OpinionJournal.com.