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To: RetiredNow who wrote (240021)	7/4/2005 4:11:40 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576178

Let me ask you a question. I know that you believe the U.S. has reaped what it sowed on 9/11. We supported dictators in that region for 50 years and the Muslims are now just paying us back. Well, I believe that is true. What I don't understand is this. If you believe that, then why don't you believe that it is our responsibility to try to make that right? This is a hard concept to communicate....its something I feel more than I conceptualize. I believe that each people/nation/culture has its own manifest destiny and that they should be allowed to reach that destiny on their own. Of course, nothing happens in a vacuum but there is interference and then there is INTERFERENCE. Following this line, I don't believe the Iraqi people were ready for our interference. Its like the owner of a large company......he wants his son or daughter to take over when he retires, so he makes s/he a vice president upon graduation. Within six months, s/he has messed things up badly. S/he was not ready to be vice president. The Iraqis were not ready to be free nor were they ready to be a democracy. I think we can be helpful to Muslims in a number of ways while still getting what we want.......a safer, more stable world: be more neutral in the Israel/Palestine mess. tie aid directly to the improvement of living conditions and freedoms in a Muslim country. And I mean seriously........have a very clearly worded checklist with which the country must comply. And follow through has to be much better than it is now. for those countries that refuse to comply, use economic sanctions. provide numerous scholarships to Muslim students in order to study in the US and UK, particularly if they want to study political science. ** stop the hypocritical alliances like with Musharraf and Uzbekistan. Those are a few......of course there are more. I believe doing an invasion and the ensuing war that inevitablity follows does more damage than good. I know that they way I was brought up is that if you break something, it is your responsibility to fix it. Weren't you also raised to keep your nose out of other people's affairs? The same principles and admonishments that make for what's considered a good neighbor within the US will make for the US being a good neighbor in the world. And btw the US did not create Saddam Hussein......the Iraqis did. Let them clean up their own mess. If you have done someone wrong, then you owe them to make it right. Bush thinks he is finally doing right by that region by trying to bring Democracy to it for the first time since the U.S. got involved in that region. Don't you think we owe it ME Muslims to give that a shot? Nope. Why are you relying on the judgment of a man who has never crossed the Atlantic nor Pacific before he became president? Why would you do that? ted

To: RetiredNow who wrote (240021)	7/5/2005 11:52:34 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576178

If you believe that, then why don't you believe that it is our responsibility to try to make that right? I, for one, don't think that the neocons started the war to make things right in the middle east. First and foremost Cheney wanted to control the oil to enrich himself. There were some second and third tier reasons for the war but the promotion of democracy was way-way down the list. There is no reason to stay and fight and die just so that oil companies have some obligations to the Bush cartel. TP