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To: Ilaine who wrote (128514)	7/30/2005 10:40:14 AM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793834

Since we're speaking about airports... I flew to Seattle on Wednesday for the day. On the flight out, I sat next to a young man of 25. He was wearing an army uniform, and was flying that day to Texas, then Germany and on back to rejoin his unit in Iraq. I told him I appreciated what he and his buddies are doing over there. He was quite appreciative. He said he was stationed in Karkuk in NE Iraq, and that things are not as bad there as in Baghdad. That said, he was anxious to get back to his unit to make sure all of his buddies were ok and had not been injured or killed. What I found interesting was that this young man was not someone who had joined up for lack of anything better to do. He has a degree from Washington State University, was quite intelligent and obviously could have been out working in the civilian world. He chose to join the Army in lieu of pursuing a civilian career. I'm grateful we have people like that young man out there, willing to serve.

To: Ilaine who wrote (128514)	8/7/2005 7:35:13 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793834

CB, my interactions with lawyers have been when my parents took a case to the Supreme Court in the 1960s, with property transactions, with a landlord and tenant case in Ottawa in 1977, with a will or two, and this and that, with a commercial operation by BP Oil with the Liquid Fuels Trust Board in NZ, with a recent NZ tax investigation. Not a lot of dealing and I found the dealings usually less than satisfactory, or ethical, or pleasant, and absurdly expensive. Over the decades, I've seen a bit up close and personal. I get the impression that lawyers are so imbued with the legalisms, that they consider ethics and human relations irrelevant to their dealings. The motto is "First, get people fighting, then go for the cash!" Getting the cash seems to be their almost obsessive drive. Their documentation of their costs are a joke, though no doubt essential. If I'd carried on like that, "to photocopying said piece of paper" I could have run up a huge amount of "costs" too. Lawyers shouldn't whine about attitudes to them. They are well compensated for the general lack of respect by the cash they get. Which is not to say all lawyers are like that. Heck, some of my best friends are lawyers. Hmmm, I'm tempted to delete this as it's just a small part of my overall impression and it's on the negative side a bit more than is justified. But I'm paying by the minute so my quality control will have to suffer. Of course people in airports aren't sheep. It is just when they are dealing with the evil wolf pack that they adopt the sheep posture. Mqurice PS: I am not saying you or any particular lawyer falls on any particular point on a greed and malevolence scale of 1 to 10.