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To: D. Long who wrote (129546)	8/3/2005 3:10:57 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793808

It's still creationism. Still the creationist crowd. To the extent that the creationist crowd in behind it is reason to be wary. But don't you see that bright line I spoke of? Seems to me that there are two kinds of opposition to evolution. One is the biblical literalist problem where where it directly contradicts the six day message and undermines their whole religious infrastructure. Concede that and it all falls apart. Evolution is an existential problem for them. The other is the secular problem where, while they might not be biblical literalists, they resent the secularity of science, government, schools, blue people, etc. and are distressed not so much by evolution but by the loss of the religious framework, in general, so they take a stand at evolution because it's an accessible place to do so. These two groups might well team up and ignore their diferences in order to get ID into the schools given that creationism can't pass muster, but I think there's an inherent internal fracture.

To: D. Long who wrote (129546)	8/3/2005 3:19:20 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793808

Well that is the sillyest statement I've read in a long time. I wonder if you could expound on your legaleze with some more detail in plain English. "They're just fiddling with the details to try to get around the Establishment Clause." I would assume that all would know it is settled law that the Constitution of the United States bases it's moral authority on the fact that there is a God. That fact does not establish a religion. creationism has so many flavors, I can not see any religion being established.