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To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (310)	8/11/2005 5:14:33 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 520

Ah, the wishful thinking school of pseudo christian scholarship. Not a shred of evidence. In fact his own testimony is self refuting. Some of those sayings have parallels in the gospels of Mark, Matthew, and Luke. Some of these have not. Some of these sayings may go back to a very early period of Christianity, some of them may have been added later. The document itself comes from the fourth century...." How does he know what may and may not have been added later? He doesn't say; and for good reason. This type of "scholarship stars with unsubstantiated and unwarranted assumptions and then goes searching for any justification it can manufacture. The document is a fourth century forgery.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (310)	8/11/2005 5:35:36 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 520

I've always thought it one of the more outstanding inconsistencies of the "eyewitness" literalist camp of "Biblical scholars" , when considering the "miracles" that were so important to Luke and Mathew. Which according to the zealous Paul , everything of the faith rests upon, yet he makes only mention of the one of the physical resurrection . Such miraclulous acts and deeds were eye~witnessed ? And the chief miracle of them all --->the "physical ascension" of the risen Jesus ? How could the apostles have witnessed that when they were already on the road out from Jerusalem as fast and as far away as they could get ? That was certainly "fixed" later , to keep the narrative flowing . There were many Greek cities and towns to the north of Galliea just over from where the multitudes gathered and were fed . Such miraculous occurences as this would surely have been noted , and the story ringing out throughout the province . Fishermen are great conveyers of tidings like this . It is a fitting & touching addition to the narrative to have all these miraculous powers and acts described for effect . So many of these miracles even happened by the temples where some literate fellows would have noted and eye witnessed them , aside from the apostles themselves. I think Paul Saul seemed very absent minded about the host of miracles that were done , or at least he only mentions one that would be hotly challenged and debated by the pagan mind at that time . ..that is the phyiscal flying away of a human being into the sky , and cheating death. A child's technique to gain attention , tell them a "big whopper ! So many miracles , and so little eyewitnesses. If you can add all these finishing touches in so much later on , then how much more was doctored in farther down the road ? And yet this and only this set of stories are supposed to be taken as true . God forbid Buddha walked upon the water 500yrs before ....but masters of evading the obvious inconsistencies of their own "pseudo science" of scholarship. ;)