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To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (135353)	8/30/2005 4:43:46 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793568

do we 'need' NO? yes... in it's current configuration? that is open to debate i refer you to james bowers well spoken point Message 21652844 also i just saw a professor cite the US Constitution, article 1 section 8... please show me where our federal dollars are designated constitutionally to rebuild private homes and non -essential businesses, yeah i realize 'other needful buildings' can be misintrepreted to mean just about anything and everything, but i think reasoned minds would agree this is NOT what the founders had intended it could be argued that fema is just another mechansim for pork spending and violates the constitution usconstitution.net Article 1 - The Legislative Branch Section 8 - Powers of Congress The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To borrow money on the credit of the United States; To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States; To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; To establish Post Offices and Post Roads; To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court; To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations; To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof. <<Back \| Table of Contents \| Next>>

To: Bill Ulrich who wrote (135353)	8/30/2005 5:15:43 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793568

I've always felt that the Libertarians were a bunch of fruitloop nutballs. Some of the ideologies are good though. Oh yes, and generally, I consider myself a small "l" libertarian. You miss the point. I am not saying that aid should not be given to NO or any other disaster area, I am just saying that it shouldn't be forced. People seem to think that we are a nation of greedy unfeeling bastards who won't help those in need unless a gun is put to our head. That just isn't true. Look at the SE Asia Tsunami aid. I wasn't force, yet I gave, what about the other people on this thread? I bet I am not the only one who gave a couple of bucks to help out. I think that the nation is a GREAT pet charity. That's why you don't have to force me to be charitable. Obviously those who believe that it must be force, must not think it is a worthwhile enough charity that people would give willingly.