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To: LindyBill who wrote (136729)9/2/2005 7:52:58 PM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793924
 
I am really confused about what help was asked for by whom and when. According to this post by Donald Sensing, the feds don't just go in, they have to be asked.

Mayor Nagin’s “Kate Hale” moment
by Donald Sensing @ 8:21 am. Filed under Current events/news, Hurricanes

Do you remember Kate Hale? She was the emergency director of Dade County, Fla., when Hurricane Andrew struck there on Aug. 24, 1992. Hale went on live national television on August 27 with tears in her eyes and castigated the federal government. Some of her comments were:

Enough is enough. Quit playing like a bunch of kids. Where in the [snip] is the cavalry? For God’s sakes, where are they? We are going to have more casualties, because we are going to have more people dehydrated. People without water. People without food. Babies without formula. If we do not get more food into the south end of Dade County in a very short period of time, we are going to have more casualties!

We have a catastrophic disaster. We are essentially the walking wounded. We have appealed through the State to the Federal Government. We’ve had a lot of people down here for press conferences, but Dade County is on its own. Dade County is being caught in the middle of something and we are being victimized. Quit playing like a bunch of kids and get us aid! Sort out your political games afterward!

We are all about ready to drop, and the reinforcements are not getting in fast enough. We need better National Guard down here…President Bush was down here. I’d like him to follow up on the commitments he made.


President Bush almost immediately order 30,000 federal troops to south Florida.

Yesterday New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin had a Kate Hale kind of moment, it seems.

He’s on the radio going of, and I do mean GOING OFF about not getting the Federal resources (specifically, military resources) he wants in New Orleans. He is LIVID and has lost his composure. He has used the phrase “Get off your [rears]” and “Get your [rears] on a plane” numerous times. He said he doesn’t want to see “any more [snip snip] press conferences” with Federal officials talking about how much they’re going to do about New Orleans until the resources are down here. He’s losing it. He is literally breaking down on the radio.

I really can’t say that I blame him, all things considered. He only said what I’ve been thinking since last night. Get the troops down here NOW, Mr. President. Mobilize an entire brigade as though the homeland has been attacked, Mr. President. Get them down here NOW. People are being beaten, robbed, raped and killed in the streets of New Orleans. It has to stop NOW.


But, as I blogged yesterday, the federal troops were already on the way and some had arrived.

Hale’s diatribe, btw, was carefully planned by county officials. While her frustration was real,it was also very staged managed; she demanded the networks carry her press conference live, for example. Was Nagin similarly staging his moment? No way to know. As for Hale, Reason’s Glenn Garvin wrote in 1993,

But there was much that Hale didn’t mention during her tearful soliloquy. First and foremost was the reason that the U.S. Army wasn’t on the scene: No one in Florida had asked for it. American presidents, with good reason, do not treat local jurisdictions like conquered territories, subject to military occupation at the whim of the White House. Even in civil disturbances, where the military’s primary skill–shooting people–is far more relevant than it is in a natural catastrophe, it’s rare to see federal troops.

Not only had Florida officials not asked for troops, they had specifically said they didn’t want any. The Florida National Guard’s hurricane log shows that on August 25, a Guard officer briefing a U.S. Army counterpart told him: “Florida has not requested any support from other states or federal agencies, nor do we project a need.”


There’s a lot more in Garvin’s piece that echoes today, worth reading and pondering in the weeks to come.

donaldsensing.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (136729)9/2/2005 8:19:08 PM
From: MulhollandDrive  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793924
 
to be fair he knew or SHOULD have known the potential of a levee break

he gambled and he lost

and now the mayor and the police chief are trying to blame others for their own incompetence



To: LindyBill who wrote (136729)9/2/2005 10:48:25 PM
From: Alan Smithee  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793924
 
To be fair, he and everybody else thought they could go home on Tuesday

He was wrong, wasn't he?

That's why they call them "contingency plans."