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To: Ilaine who wrote (67774)9/13/2005 11:04:54 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
I thought he was making the point that liberals supported Bruce, and now (gosh darn those liberals) they support PC suppression of bigots. I really don't see that as terribly inconsistent (supporting Bruce, and supporting PC), since profanity isn't really aimed at any one group to dehumanize them, but JF seems to think it is some kind of similar issue- and I am fed up with potty mouths myself (although I dislike bigots more, I must say)- so I am fine with society squelching both- although I'm not sure to what extent I want the state involved. But most PC pressure is societal, and not statist, anyway.



To: Ilaine who wrote (67774)9/14/2005 12:44:21 AM
From: JF Quinnelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
i>Lenny Bruce wasn't attacked by liberals, he was attacked by conservatives. As you know.

Actually I don't know the affiliation of those who prosecuted Bruce, and I'm curious to know how that is easily determined 40 years after the fact. But I did mention that he was a cause celebre of liberals at the time, it's one of the reasons I used Lenny Bruce as an example. At that time liberals were defending Bruce's freedom of speech, whereas today the PC faction among them embrace the methods and rationale of those who prosecuted Bruce. Which is a point Henthoff, a prominent liberal critic of political correctness, makes.

Bruce wasn't a Howard Stern using coarse language over the public airwaves. His act was in private venues, nightclubs, and he wasn't prosecuted for indecency.