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To: Elroy who wrote (252660)	9/25/2005 6:01:35 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572208

re: If you live in a society where a certain class is above you and you have no recourse against them for abuses they may commit against you, you have zero "rights", per se. Except perhaps the right to remain silent. Have you looked at the laws passed by the Republican congress? You are right on. re: No more western dress? Why not? Because the militias in southern Iraq are killing people who violate Shari'a law. re: I'm no expert, but I don't think the husband has a "right to beat his wife" in the Koran. Where are you getting these ideas from? Certainly not from Islamic Malaysia, Indonesia or Syria. I think it is Islamic Tunisia where the veil is illegal. Remember the Taliban? re: Under the new Iraqi constitution, the "legislature" can't pass any laws that contradict Shari'a law... which is whatever the Mullahs say it is. ***** I think you're making stuff up here. No, I'm not. "I think" is not an adequate response. You need to spend a bit of time reading about what's going on... you're naive view of the situation is at best disturbing. How can you be so misinformed? John

To: Elroy who wrote (252660)	9/27/2005 2:49:07 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572208

They haven't been able to shop for clothes for 3 years. Doesn't sound like freedom, when you can't go shopping for clothes for 3 solid years. This is according to some of my Iraqi female friends. Iraq had female lawyers as well as a variety of ethnic religions, not a mandate to be only one ethnic religion. SH was much more open minded than some of the other regimes. Btw, regarding China... the impression of wealth given to a foreigner is planned by the govt to a certain degree. For example, you probably didn't go to the older section of the city, because the govt has a very heavy hand on how things are planned and structured - foreigners will land at the airport and go right to the business section, which of course is in the new part. But so much is new, you're right. It looks and is very impressive. However, is it ethical to hide the poor, so to speak? In India, you will see more poor people around the airport because that's where they come to get jobs and they are everywhere you go. China doesn't allow this - don't forget China is a communist controlled country. India isn't divided into poor areas and rich areas to the same degree China is, the rich and poor actually live very close to each other in India - enough so that when you go from one place to another you will see the poor. But China controls their planning so that you may not even see the poor on a business trip. In India it's guaranteed you will see the poor (it's pretty hard to stomach for any American, we couldn't imagine living in such poverty). It's ironic a communist country (that's suppose to be for the working poor) has hidden its poor people away from the wealthy. Yet, I believe China's planning will spur more business leaders to conduct their business in China - business leaders prefer a "tidy" trip without the hassles of poverty. So, while in the short-term China is doing something that's wrong (hiding the poor people), this will help things be better for China in the long-term because it will increase their business attraction. Communism allows long-term gains over short-term pain. Democracy and capitalism is weaker in this regards. Regards, Amy J

To: Elroy who wrote (252660)	10/2/2005 12:37:40 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572208

Elroy, New Bans Show China's Concerns About Tech By ANICK JESDANUN, AP Internet Writer Two new Internet bans may offer insight into the Chinese government's biggest fears. news.yahoo.com The new regulations require sites to post only news on current events and politics — without any commentary, normally a staple of blogs. "You cannot take a story, even an official story, and then run with it or comment on it in a way there was some space to do in the past. Besides blogs, the no-comment provisions seems to be directed also at portals like Sina and Sohu as well as the discussion forums they host, Spiegel said. The new rules supplement the government's efforts to block foreign news sources through technical filters and to restrict online use by regulating and closing down cybercafes that serve as a primary access point for many Chinese users.