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To: MrLucky who wrote (7562)12/19/2005 10:17:10 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541900
 
If it does occur, today's naysayers about Bush using NSA to spy will whine that the administration did not do enough to discover the attackers beforehand. Call me negative. I am, when it comes to the safety of my family and this country.

I think you misunderstand the issues here. Bush could easily have used regular channels to get authorization for the wiretaps. In a timely manner. I've not seen an argument, only assertions, that disagrees with that.

Since you are no more nor no less safe because Bush skipped the regular procedures, your sense of comfort is for some other reason.

The real worries are about the actual preparation of the country in case of something like a dirty bomb. We are way behind on that one.



To: MrLucky who wrote (7562)12/19/2005 10:20:21 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 541900
 
Call me negative. I am, when it comes to the safety of my family and this country.

I understand that perspective. I just don't share it. Just because they want to kill us doesn't mean that they can. They got in one good shot--a spectacular shot. One hit wonder or serious threat? No way to be sure. You are risk averse, I'm not particularly. I don't expect perfect safety. Risk from terrorists, risk from snooping, same difference--low probability.



To: MrLucky who wrote (7562)12/20/2005 7:55:30 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541900
 
I'm not really replying to your main point, but rather to a phrase that you used.

The threat is real for me and cannot be overstated.

I never really understood the use of "cannot be overstated" in most contexts including this one.

An argument can be made that the threat is very severe. But I can think of any number of ways to overstate it.

Maybe I'm just to literal minded about some things.

Tim