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To: orkrious who wrote (56214)	3/19/2006 12:28:35 PM
From: nonrev	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

You don't have to melt it... your not depending on heat. Your depending on destroying the microcircuit component integrity, The tincy-tiny bits and connections that make up the internals of the microcircuits. If you put a regular chip in a microwve for a few senonds it wont melt but the chip will be worthless. Just a few seconds should do, 2 or 3 max. Of course another writter was correct regarding the faraday shield. That would be best if you were concerned about being screened by random detectors scattered about unseen. Just wrap it in aluminum foil. However you can't do that if someone asks to see it and scan it at a check point. Then you need to whip it out and give it to them. This is probably OK IMO, I mean its an easy way to get data and should be legit and "shouldn't" be abused by the authorities (no promise on that though with this bunch in the WH) What I object to is them screening me when I'm not aware, the Big Bother monitering that is developing, and also not knowing what data exactly IS programmed into the Passport Also be aware that if you do scramble your Passport data it could lead to you being denied entry or exit from a country when they can't get data from it... nonrev

To: orkrious who wrote (56214)	3/19/2006 7:17:16 PM
From: benwood	Respond to of 110194

It would depend on the size, since they have a built in antenna. I'd guess one to two seconds would fry most.

To: orkrious who wrote (56214)	3/19/2006 8:28:34 PM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110194

How long in a microwave is enough to destroy an RFID chip? There must be a length of time that can melt the chip but not cause a fire. Maybe just a few seconds? Do you recall a mish household tip of the day? I do not have tine to look for it but essentially overloading one's freezer can end up with the label on a bottle of Pompein Red Wine vinegar catching fire in the microwave (and stinking the kitchen up to high heavens) and a puddle of water on the kitchen floor to boot. Here is the short version: I overstocked the freezer so badly that things started to melt (no cold air circulation) and there was a big puddle of water on the floor. In response I turned down the temperature to the point that stuff in the refrigerator (like vinegar) froze solid. I attempted to thaw it out in the microwave and the metal foil caught on fire. That is the gist of it and Mish's household tip is to NOT overstuff your freezer or you may end up with puddles of water on the kitchen floor and smoke in your microwave one day later. Mish