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To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (58314)4/16/2006 12:14:52 PM
From: russwinter  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 110194
 
The markets have been far too complacent about the enrichment development as well, just add to a long list. The situation may require desperate action. I'm just thinking, at least set back their program by damaging it. Diplomacy isn't going to work. Then let the Iranians do a tit for tat payback, but draw a line in the sand on that (can be done with back channel activity), which if crossed, brings about US seizure of the border oil fields (to be held in trust), and an economic boycott. What else can they do? Don't have the luxury of waiting another year. There is no way the US can engage Iran in a major military campaign, other than interdicting their ability to campaign around the fields.

Iran Could Produce Nuclear Bomb in 16 Days, U.S. Says
April 12 (Bloomberg) -- Iran, defying United Nations Security Council demands to halt its nuclear program, may be capable of making a nuclear bomb within 16 days, a U.S. State Department official said.

Iran will move to ''industrial scale'' uranium enrichment involving 54,000 centrifuges at its Natanz plant, the Associated Press quoted deputy nuclear chief Mohammad Saeedi as telling state-run television today.

''Using those 50,000 centrifuges they could produce enough highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon in 16 days,'' Stephen Rademaker, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for International Security and Nonproliferation, told reporters today in Moscow.

On the otherhand, constrants on doing anything about it.
forbes.com



To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (58314)4/16/2006 2:18:53 PM
From: ild  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
To me it looks VERY likely that Iran already has the bomb. They have had at least 10 years to make it. They must have wanted it badly as Israel had it and Iraq was supposedly making it.

From Heinz on this subject:
after all, it's not difficult to build one. the basic technology is 60 years old. the ONLY difficulty is obtaining and / or making the fissile material, and i suspect the collapse of the Soviet Union as well as the long years of Pakistan's chief nuke scientist's black market deals have offered ample opportunity to Iran in this regard.
otoh, it is estimated that if they are still in the development stage, it would take them at least another 5-10 years to become autonomous bomb makers. in any event, what are they going to do? they can't very well use it. they'd be completely wiped out if they did that.



To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (58314)4/16/2006 7:28:02 PM
From: NOW  Respond to of 110194
 
not to mention possible untold huge casualties of innocent civilians in Iran



To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (58314)4/16/2006 7:49:28 PM
From: sammy™ -_-  Respond to of 110194
 
Attacking leads to making wrong decisions. It incites people to hate you, and when powerless, poor, and desperate people hate you they often turn to desperate tactics like terrorism to make their point. It's fairly easy to see that a "war on terrorism" is rather likely to produce more terrorists than it eliminates.



To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (58314)4/17/2006 1:56:03 AM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
>>how lucky we are to have a dismal failure of a human being leading our country at this critical juncture...<<

I posted this on the Clowns thread a couple days ago....the History Channel had a nice piece on the Scopes trial this week, and had a great quote from HL Menken about William Jennings Bryan that applies even better to Bush today:

One somehow pities him, despite his so palpable imbecilities. It is a tragedy, indeed, to begin life as a hero and to end it as a buffoon. But let no one, laughing at him, underestimate the magic that lies in his black, malignant eye, his frayed but still eloquent voice. He can shake and inflame these poor ignoramuses as no other man among us can shake and inflame them, and he is desperately eager to order the charge.