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To: bond_bubble who wrote (58992)4/21/2006 1:21:49 PM
From: UncleBigs  Respond to of 110194
 
bb, I agree with you.



To: bond_bubble who wrote (58992)4/21/2006 1:57:45 PM
From: shades  Respond to of 110194
 
However, the US oil inventory, which used to drive oil prices, is near an all-time high.

Taikun posted this last year:

Message 21214962

Coverup?

Oil inventories may be tighter than you think
By MASOOD FARIVAR

MARKETS DON'T ALWAYS work perfectly. But when oil prices keep rising, even as inventories continue to balloon, you have to wonder if something is getting in the way of economic forces.

Something might be. Consider this: Crude oil and gasoline prices have climbed to record levels in recent days, even with inventories of both standing above their historic averages.

What is going on? Doug MacIntyre, an analyst at the Energy Information Administration, the statistics and analysis arm of the Department of Energy, says he may have an answer. Oil inventories, he says, are actually not as ample as his agency's data indicate.

True, inventories of both crude oil and gasoline stand above their historic averages. But in terms of the number of days of demand they cover, MacIntyre says, they're barely within the historic range. Simply put, inventories haven't kept pace with rising demand in recent years.

Take U.S. commercial inventories of gasoline, for instance: As of the end of March, these inventories stood at 212.3 million barrels, up some 5% from their five-year average of 202.5 million barrels, according to the most recent EIA data.

But don't be fooled. While relatively high in nominal terms, they don't cover as many days of demand as the numbers suggest.

In fact, on a "forward-cover" basis, current inventories cover 23.1 days of demand as opposed to 24.3 days of demand for the historic average, according to MacIntyre.

That's because gasoline demand has grown by 1.8% a year over the past five years, while stockpiles have increased by only 1% a year during the same period.

The trend also applies to inventories of crude oil. As of the end of March, U.S. crude stockpiles stood at 317.1 million barrels, 5% higher than their five-year average of 302.3 million barrels. But both the current and historic-average levels of these inventories cover about 20 days of input into refineries.

Think of it as inflation: Just as $200 doesn't buy as many goods today as it did 10 years ago, 200 barrels of oil doesn't cover the same portion of total demand today as it did 10 years ago.

"What explains it is the fact that demand has grown stronger and inventories not as much," MacIntyre says. "What we're saying is that instead of looking at absolute levels, you really need to look at how many days of cover those inventories would account for."

In the early 1990s, when oil demand remained relatively flat, forward cover wasn't nearly as significant. But with oil demand on the rise in recent years, it's become more relevant, MacIntyre says.

Indeed, with oil at the forefront of financial markets, the EIA's weekly inventory figures have assumed the importance of a key economic indicator. Foreign-currency dealers, bond traders and fund managers watch them just as closely as payrolls.

The notion that weekly EIA figures may give a distorted picture of the inventory situation appears to be catching on in the market. Increasingly in recent weeks, traders have shrugged off growth in crude and gasoline inventories as they have bid up futures.

"The days of forward cover is clearly a more accurate way to look at it," says Andy Weissman, president of the investment firm Energy Ventures Group. "The absolute number is meaningless unless you put it in context, and the days of forward cover does that."

Weissman says that while shrinking forward demand cover may partly explain the rise in oil prices, there is another reason for the rally: fear that refiners won't be able to meet demand.

That may be. Others argue, however, that market forces will eventually prevail, as rising inventories begin to exert downward pressure on prices.

STEVE HANKE, a professor of applied economics at the Johns Hopkins University, says he isn't convinced inventories are as tight as forward cover implies.

He notes that crude-oil futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange have moved into "contango" -- a situation where the spot price is lower than the futures price -- after years of the opposite price trend, known as "backwardation."

That means the market is so well-supplied that refiners are actually getting paid to build inventory. As inventories continue to build, prices will have to fall in response.

"When you switch from a situation where it is costing you to accumulate inventory to a situation where you're getting paid to accumulate inventory, you know you've entered the final stage of a bull market," HANKE says.

AFTER HITTING A RECORD $58.28 Monday, nearby crude-oil futures plunged nearly 9% last week, following a sharp slide in gasoline prices, as refinery activity surged.



To: bond_bubble who wrote (58992)4/21/2006 2:05:24 PM
From: shades  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
Argentine Fuel Oil Use To Hit 1.5M Tons,Up 36% YOY-Source

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BUENOS AIRES (Dow Jones)--Argentine energy planners expect that power generators will use 1.5 million metric tons of fuel oil this year, up 36% from 1.1 million metric tons in 2005, an industry official said Friday.

The increase will help energy planners meet rising demand amid ebbing supply of natural gas.

Meanwhile, water levels at the Yacyreta hydroelectric plant are expected to rise two meters to 78 meters above sea level this month, the industry official added. The official, who is familiar with the administration of the national power grid, spoke on the condition that he not be named.

The long-awaited Yacyreta water level increase will add 400 megawatts of installed capacity to the national power grid, the official said. The bi-national Yacyreta project spans the Parana River on the Paraguayan border.

Argentine energy demand has jumped as the nation recovers from its 2001-2002 financial crisis. The government stepped up fuel oil purchases in 2004, buying 828,000 metric tons, after gas shortages caused a mild energy crisis two years ago. Natural gas producers have been slow to invest in exploration due to a four-year-old utility rates freeze that remains partially in place.

Despite the extra fuel oil and added Yacyreta electricity output, the national power system is stretched thin and could have problems if an emergency - such as a generator outage - were to occur this winter, the industry official said.

Beyond 2006, Argentina's current infrastructure cannot support the storage and movement of more than 1.5 million tons of fuel oil per year.

-By Drew Benson, Dow Jones Newswires; 5411-4311-3127;
andrew.benson@dowjones.com


(END) Dow Jones Newswires

April 21, 2006 13:45 ET (17:45 GMT)

Copyright (c) 2006 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.- - 01 45 PM EDT 04-21-06



To: bond_bubble who wrote (58992)4/21/2006 2:24:58 PM
From: John Vosilla  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
"Many people think house speculators are idiots but commodity speculators are genius because commodity demand is genuine!! Even if statistics show differently!! Bottom line - we are getting into the terminal stage of boom where everything inflates madly causing PPI to soar and companies start laying off people. The only way companies can stop that is if PPI falls. So, interest rates are going to go up irrespective of deflation/credit bubble bust. Even if there is deflation in credit, PPI is going to be high for sometime because of currency depreciation. People hoping for Bernanke helicopter are going to surprised that a) inspite of housing crash, credit bust, bank bust and b) inspite of elevated interest rates (i.e helicopter Ben hibernates) - PPI stays relatively high (I dont expect double digit for example). This will be like UK in 1929...."

Sounds convincing. I do agree on the higher interest rates, much higher PPI, credit bubble bust and regional housing bust. Show me signs where the banks or corporate America is going bust? Eternal doom and gloom is as silly as bubbleheads speculating and flipping way over priced property today or speculators in gold and silver in 1980. In your scenario the only good investment this next cycle would be to hoard basic goods?



To: bond_bubble who wrote (58992)4/21/2006 5:20:51 PM
From: regli  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
I do read Andy Xie quite frequently but I have very little respect for his views on commodities. I am certain that Darffot and others can easily and quickly pick apart his inventory argument on oil. As Cox has explained many times, once CL went from backwardation into contango, inventories were bound to grow.

However, I simply found this one to be the kicker as I have been a long time silver investor:

"Silver is up by 58.1% this year. Nobody has come up with a story to explain it. The race is on to see who can come up with a plausible story quickest."

The fact that he couldn't even find somebody with a story about a commodity that has been in a 60 year production deficit, shows me the lack of depth of his analysis. If his other opinions are as superficial as this one (and I believe that his CL and AU arguments are) then I have to question most of what he writes and I now do!

If a analyst doesn't want to know the real story and therefore ignores obvious facts to further his argument then he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.



To: bond_bubble who wrote (58992)4/22/2006 12:18:52 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
one ought to believe that the coming urbanization of 300 odd mil in each of india and china will take up a bit of copper ... the math is pretty straightforward

perhaps folks do not believe that the folks to be urbanized are real? or that they are riding on trains heading for wrecking?